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Our opponents did not bid this slam but with careful play made 13 tricks in 4S for a good result.
2 pairs bid and made the slam.
one pair bid it but went off.
What happened at your table?
No one bid this slam last night.
I think this was our opponents bidding sequence.
anyone suggest a better one?
what happened at your table?
No slams bid and made last night.
This was a bit of a teaser as a last hand.
6D can be made but seems impossible to bid.
I rightly thought that if I opened 1S it could be passed out , which happened on some tables.
In the end I bid 2NT as the least worst option.
Natasha rightly worried that there might not be an entry to her hand and passed as did others.
The best result was by those who punted 3NT.
On the play it is very difficult to defend and I ran out all 13 tricks. The machine says I should have been kept to 10.
Malcolm decided to open with our game forcing bid of 2C which is certainly a viable option I think. 2D from me (negative); 2S; 3D; 3H; 3NT. This wasn’t really a ‘punt’ given Malcolm’s game force opening, it was more one of only two options…. 3NT or take us past that spot into 4D and see what Malcolm did then. I opted for the former.
Fortunately the Ds behaved and we duly made 10 tricks. You making 13 tricks is astounding - a very charitable defence but I’m sure you deserve it!
We missed out on this slam hand. Either 6H or 6NT. We ended up in 3NT.
How should the bidding have gone?
As ever, just because a slam makes on double dummy it doesn’t mean you should be in it.
At our table the bidding was 2H (weak); 2NT (ogust); 3S (described as 9/10 points with 2 honours in H, in this case the A and J); 6NT!
The maximum point count the partnership can have is 31 which isn’t 6NT territory in my book. Without asking for key cards, what about the AS, the missing H honour if partner hasn’t got the K (note the ogust system as explained didn’t define the bid as two of the top three honours) and the KC. It’s asking a lot and those with mathematical expertise would be able to work out the odds - I couldn’t even begin to do that sort of calculation but, surely, they don’t look very good.
If Alan had opened 2H, 2NT would have received a 3H reply in our system (upper point range and one of the top 3 honours). Straightaway you know that AH or KH is missing and even if partner has the AS, the strong likelihood is that any successful slam will either depend on the KC being right or being able to establish the club suit. Knowing me, I may well have checked key cards, being unable to resist, but I’m not sure it’s a sound move. I would get the reply of two and then it’s a question of ‘do I feel lucky’. Suffice to say if you are going for a slam I would opt for 6H as the better option (others may disagree).
Stopping in 3NT is the most sound spot I would suggest and likely to score very well unless everyone in the room is in ‘computer bridge’ mode! There were a number of computer bridge slams last night…….
If you do manage to bid 6H it is an excellent contract because even if the heart finesse and the club finesse are both wrong the odds are still good because you will probably get rid of a club loser on the third spade and be able to ruff a diamond , just losing one heart trick.
I thought this was a more interesting hand than Board 10.
We were playing against our subs from Barbados playing Standard American , hence the 2S from South.
I had been busy pondering how to open the West hand and now had a different quandary.
Perhaps standard practice would have been to double and then bid clubs over East's bid but I was aware of the possibility of North bidding 4S as a preemptive wall.
Or so I thought , in fact it mostly makes, in a couple of cases doubled.
The chances of us missing a slam with Natasha's pass seemed slim so I took a punt at 5C which was passed out.
On a diamond lead I can make 5C if I guess the clubs correct, I am gambling split honours but judged it more likely that south (who hesitated) had Qx rather than Ax.
One down :(
However it was quite a good result from us with 4S often making and results all over the place.
My partner Alan was the only player to make the bold opening bid of 1S after two passes , despite being vulnerable against non vulnerable. After a 2C overcall by West I raised to 4S which was doubled by West and 10 tricks were made. At one other table North made a bold opening bid of 1S which also resulted in 4S doubled and making.
4S can be defeated if you can see all 4 hands by West underleading the AKD with the 9 and East overtaking and switching to a club. If anybody achieved that then I think they be reported for suspicion of collusion !
Richard and Alan playing E/W. I think that was the bidding.
When Alan passed Richard's 5S there was a P? from Richard and a sry P from Alan. However, it seems that was the best contract, as no one else was in spades. Richard made 12 tricks for top board.
Just to clarify all the comments were made after the end of bidding
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You have indeed got the bidding sequence correct but I’m not sure the comments were anything to do with the bidding itself. I think the ‘P?’ was from me and was simply because there was a long delay and I was checking Alan was still connected. I believe the ‘sorry p‘ was from Alan because he’d obviously woken up! 🙂🙂. The bidding was standard and Alan had no option, of course, but to pass 5S. His 5C showed 0 or 3 key cards, the 5S simply asks and with none he passed. Once Alan had eventually supported my Spades, it had to be worth querying a possible slam but stopping short is the right call.
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1S (normal opener) 2H (5 hearts with 10+ pts, or 9 pts with secondary spade support)
2D (a reverse promising 5+ spades 4+ diamonds, with 15+ pts after the 2 level response. Game forcing) 3NT (with clubs well stopped. Denying 3 spades. Not showing any interest in going further).
Richard, with extra values, bids
4D (showing 5 diamonds) 4S (showing preference)
4NT (RKCB) 5C (0 or 3 key cards – which Richard knows is 0)
5S (sign off. Only 1 key card missing, but Richard can see too many possible places for a 2nd loser) All pass
The P and Sry were because I’d forgotten to click the pass button (whoops)
Richard won the club in his own hand and cashed Q, J of spades (overtaking the 2nd round of spades to immediately cash a 3rd round would produce a losing spade). He led a heart and, when North didn’t go up with the A, the K won. Richard drew the last trump, crossed to the K of clubs and led the J of diamonds when this lost, he won the return and the rest of the diamonds cashed out.
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A top through a misunderstanding.
Playing RKCB my 5S meant 2 "aces" plus QH.
When Natasha asked about Kings , my reply meant to say No KC, No KD, not denying KS as to show it would commit us to the Grand Slam. Natasha thought it showed 2 Kings.
The spade lead helped our cause but having taken trumps out , 3 rounds, I still had to decide on which finesse to take diamonds or clubs. I decided to start diamonds from hand and if there was no hesitation and a low diamond from North take AD and try the club finesse the other way. As it was the JD was covered by Q, not unreasonable as the whereabouts of 10D is unknown. I can then run home or 13 tricks without taking the losing finesse in clubs.
A little lucky !
Although Phil thinks it was a misunderstanding, I understood that there are two ways to play 5NT in RKCB:
1 – Ask partner to bid his cheapest (non-trump) King
2 – Ask partner how many kings he holds (excluding the trump king, which has already been accounted for), ie. 6C=0; 6D=1; 6H=2; 6S=3
So, I took Phil's 6H to be the simpler version, telling me he has 2 Kings and hence 7♥ !!
Even if Natasha is playing the same system as you , should you not trust her to be able to cope with a 6S reply. She may be content to bid 6NT or that may be just what she wants to hear in order to bid a grand slam ?
in response to Malcolm
it was always my understanding that was the system. Given you were giving good info about the minor kings
No slams bid last night.
Our opponents played this one in 3NT and I failed to take my 2nd ace so they made 12 tricks.
The contract to be in is 6D , which can always make but it's difficult to see.
We never looked like bidding the diamond slam. The bidding went:
The 2H bid was a reverse promising at least 5-4 in diamonds and hearts and 15+pts
Stuart wasn’t encouraged by my repeated bids in clubs. I felt I’d shown all my values with bidding at the 2 level and with 2 little one I wasn’t particularly interested in diamonds.
3NT plus 2 scored 50% which I won’t complain about.
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Only Andrew and Ian spotted the full potential of this hand and bid 6H.
Virtually everyone made 13 tricks
A couple of slam hands around last night.
This was the more difficult one, especially with the pesky 2S interference.
I knew Natasha had 4 hearts but not 5 from the double but my hearts and the whole hand was weak so I repeated my clubs.
If we were to settle for a game contract it had to be in hearts.
6C is the only safe slam contract although one pair made 6H.
No slams last night.
This hand was interesting.
Most pairs ended up in 4S played by East, in this case Alan.
I was kicking myself for my KC lead, thinking I should have lead the singleton spade.
Deep finesse says the contract makes against any defence.
However only Alan, who played it immaculately, brought home the bacon for an outright top.
4S is an incredibly difficult contract to make against best defence. To be successful usually entails perfect timing and end playing North at the right moment in trumps so that he/she is end played in to giving a ruff and discard.
Natasha could have defeated 4S by cashing her remaining winning trump when she first got in – this would have avoided the endplay.
I am glad we were only in 3S.
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Unusually last night there were just 3 slams bid and made all on separate boards.
Having been top with our 6S on board 1 we were on the receiving end of 6D on this board, well bid by Richard and Malcom.
Perhaps they can remind me of their bidding sequence.
Our sequence was 2D (I valued it as an 8 playing trick hand even though there’s likely to be 9) and Malcolm bid a 2H relay. 3D from me, 4D from Malcolm and I had a free 4NT bid, being able to end in 5D if partner showed no AH (he could only bid 5C or 5D of course because of my combinations). Happily he bid 5D, showing the one ace, and now I have a decision. With my singleton H adding further values and reasoning Malcolm might well have opted for a fast arrival of 5D if he was pretty poor, I jumped in with both feet.
Surprised more people weren’t in it but pleased because I played it too quickly and poorly and failed to harvest an easy 13 tricks.
At our table S opened with a Lucas 2S. As often happens this put a massive spoke in our wheels. As west I doubled and N bid 2NT asking for the other suit in S. (both oppos bidding and I have 20 points !). Kathryn passed and S bid 3C. Not sure what I should have done but tried 3NT. Kathryn knew I had a good hand but couldnt really bid so there we stayed making 13 tricks. Understandably we missed slam.
This slam escaped all but Julie & David.
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A solid 6S with only 26;points.
when I bid a temporising 2C Natasha rightly revalued her hand and gave me 3S , the slam try was then pretty much guaranteed with the double fit.
As the cards lie, it’s a good slam but, on the whole, it’s less than 50%..
If there’s 3 to an honour offside, you’re down.
If when you lay the A of spades down, an honour drops off side, do you continue with the K for the 2-2 drop or go across to dummy to take the finesse?
If there’s 3 to the QJx onside, double dummy will make the contract, but it takes a brave player to take a 1st round finesse.
At our table the bidding became a bit complicated
1S 2D 3C Pass
3D Pass 3NT Pass
4S Pass 4NT Pass
5C Pass 5D Pass
6C Pass 6S All Pass
The Oppos 2D bid got in the way. My 3Cs should show a 5 card club suit, but I though I would always be able to put us back into spades if that’s where we should be, if partner supported clubs.
Partner’s 3D was asking for more info and 3NT showed my diamond stop. Now when partner bids 4S, I believe he’s got a stronger hand type
4NT is RKCB and 5C shows 0 or 3 key cards, which surely is 3. Now my only concern is what are we missing in top spade honours. We can ask for the Q of trumps by bidding the next unbid suit up. My plan was to play in 5S if partner didn’t have the Q. I bid 5D (bid by opponents but not by us). My partner didn’t recognise what I meant and bid 6Cs, which I put back to 6 spades. Fortunately it made.
We were fortunate in having a bidding misunderstanding without going completely off the rails and still ended up bidding and making 6S. After my 1S opening bid as N we were the only pair that had to contend with a 2D overcall by E the Frenchman with 5 points which complicated matters . Alan bid 3C in S and I then had an awkward choice. Supporting clubs might risk ending up in 5C without being able to explore a slam for fear of going too high. Bidding 3S is an underbid and 4S an overbid so I chose to keep the bidding going by bidding 3D. Alan bid 3NT , I bid 4S , Alan 4NT (RKCB) , 5C my me showing 0 or 3 key cards with S as trumps . At this point Alan bid 5D and I forgot that under our system that is asking about QS. I was weighing up whether 6C or 6S would be the better contact and elected to bid 6C ( that is far superior to 6S if Alan has only 2 spades and he did have the opportunity to give delayed support over my 3D bid to bid 3S if he had 3 ). I have now completely confused Alan by giving an impossible reply to his QS enquiry and he converts to 6S. Fortunately , slightly against the odds the spades break 2-2 and we make it. Those who understand the rule of restricted choice may argue there is an extra chance if E had singleton QS or JS because they wold finesse the 2nd round of spades but will realise that they would then go down if E had QJ doubleton.
readers will realise this is the commentary on the same table from either side!
In contrast this board despite its 32 points is not a straightforward 6NT chance.
indeed neither pair that bid it made 12 tricks.
Once the diamond finesse fails it relies on a squeeze or a correct guess of the spade position
I was worried my lead of JC from South had given the game away but with partner holding the 9C there is no marked finesse.
I just need to hold my clubs.
North is in more trouble trying to hold her 2 clubs, 3 spades and at least a further 3 diamonds, in the end something has to give.
What happened at your table.
On board 25 our Oppos bid to 3NT. Partner made a safe club ,lead taken by the K. Declarer took the losing diamond finesse. After winning the club return, declarer took the winning spade finesse and then dropped the Q of hearts by playing A, K. 12 tricks now roll in.
This looks like a good candidate for a slam.
surely most would have opened with the south hand and north has 21 points.
No one looked at the grand slam , perhaps in diamonds?
Well this is a strange one.
On the face of it to make the spade slam you need a club blockage (not sure of the odds), careful play of diamonds to shed one club from west,and a ruffing finesse in hearts to rid the other club.
at our table our opponents didn't go anywhere near the slam and made 11 tricks.
However at 5 tables, folk had a rush of blood and bid it, 2 pairs made it!
Rather embarrassed to admit to having placed my partner in this but knowing Alan’s talents and his renowned good fortune, there was a reason - a rather pathetic one but it was a reason!
I couldn’t believe it when Alan opened a S. I nearly punted 6 immediately. Sense reigned for a bit so I bid 2NT (raise to at least 3S) and Alan bid 4 with nothing else to say. 4NT from me brought 5S from partner (2 key cards and QS). Now then..... clearly it was possible for partner to have two Aces and be missing the KS and that would give us a chance. It was unlikely but possible so I decided to give it a bash on the basis that I’d been tempted to try 6S straight away anyway. Told you it was pathetic reasoning.....
How on earth we managed to get that Club split is anyone’s guess and partner then played it perfectly to bring home the bacon.
Herewith a public apology to Pat and Jackie who were our unlucky oppos.
Another one of those do you, don't you hands. Is 31 points really enough for 6NT
congratulations to those who bid it, not our opposition luckily.
should it be bid?
In my humble opinion the answers to your question is it shouldn’t be attempted. 31 HCP isn’t enough to hunt down a NT slam and you need everything working to make 6 which is very lucky. Our bidding was 2NT (20/22); 3C (puppet stayman); 3NT (no 4 or 5 card maj); 4NT (quantitative inquiry); easy pass. Note the magician Mr Kenny managed to make 7. I attempted the same play as him by leading the QS at one point - our oppos felled it with the Ace but Alan got away with it. As Wilson would say.... ‘dipped in it!’
I got this wrong from the start.
Our big bid is 2D but I thought we are not going to play in NT and I can't guarantee game in diamonds or clubs opposite a Yarborough.
it didn't get any better when I had a second chance to bid.
The double is for take out in our system but with the vulnerability I was not unhappy when Natasha passed. A penalty of 800 looked pretty good till you realise the grand slam is cold.
how should it be bid?
I suppose it depends on how partners define their 2C (or 2D if that’s your strongest option). Under normal circumstances, in my book, 2C would be game force OR 23 plus. Bidding would then go....2C; 2D (negative - 0-6 points ie less than an A and a K); 3C; 4C; and then opener has a decision. To my mind the club support is fantastic news. I’m assuming P will have four clubs (otherwise he would have bid another 4 or 5 card suit en route) and therefore its very likely to mean no C losers. 6C SHOULD, therefore, be pretty much nailed on. Since it’s not going to get in the way, I think I would try 4NT after the 4C just to see if partner’s points were invested in AH. I’d then have a little think about giving 7C a try if I got the right response. Could go wrong of course but even if a H wasn’t led you’re very likely to be able to get across in trumps to use it to dump the losing S. As it is the AH is missing so no harm done and you’d default to the 6C contract. On a very bad day it might go off but you only live once.....
Do you agree with my thinking on this hand.
The 6NT bid was not just hogging the contract.
With 19 points opposite an opening bid we are clearly in slam territory.
We play 5 card majors.
Even if Natasha is sub minimum for her bid she probably has a 6th spade which may give us 5 tricks.
I am hoping for a lead into one of my red suits which may create the extra trick.
Had Natasha 2 key cards would I have been brave enough to go 7? We will never know.
As the cards lie I need to drop or find KS onside. Slightly better than 50/50. And the same applies if we are in the spade slam.
It would have been easier with a 4th club or diamond in either hand giving extra chances.
Fortune favours the bold?
Or should it not be bid?
What do you think?
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6D and 6H make by N/S, but we ended up in 6S* by the opposition for 800
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This is how we got to the Grand last night.
strictly Natasha should have 4 spades for her bid but her rebid of hearts otherwise didn't seem right.
knowing Natasha had 2 aces and must have some other points in the red suits I assumed she would have either red K which is all I needed for the Grand
The bidding at our table was identical to yours , which is not often the case !
Richard Horsley slipped past Kathryn Shaw last night to win the Slam Master, scoring a grand and a small slam. Ending up on a score of 20 for the truncated year, one more than Kathryn.
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Joan and John bid the heart slam here against us.
luckily I took my AD otherwise they can make all 13 tricks.
what happened at your table
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The only slam chance last night.
a little confusion in our bidding sequence.
The 4NT was intended as quantitative, 2H already showing no Ace. I took it as RKCB perhaps interested in specific Kings. It all worked out right in the end.
On a club lead the play was quite straightforward. There seems no scope for a 13th trick so I gave up KC immediately so there was no need to touch hearts.
On a heart lead the correct play is duck QH always keeping a second cover. I am not sure I would have found that play, many didn't.
As the cards lie 6NT is always safe on any lead but it illustrates the point made last week , 6NT even with 32 points is not a walk in the park.
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No slams bid and made but this one should have been.
my Mind is a total blank as to how we got to 6D , with me west playing them. Perhaps Natasha can help.
We lost the first trick to AH and there was a switch to Clubs which I won in hand with the Ace.
I can either play for the finesse or hope to drop QS. I decided to play for the drop, worried about a ruff somewhere as the hands were all unbalanced, and played a series of diamonds hoping for a spade discard, no luck so ended up losing 2 tricks. With the spades on show no one is going to drop a vital spade so in the cold light of day I should have taken the finesse.
32 points but not easy to make 6NT.
Only one pair bid and made it.
You have to get 2 finesses right with presumably no clues from the bidding.
it just shows you do need those extra values in a NT slam.
A cracker of a hand of the week.
Sitting South I could open strong but wanted to show 2 suits.
So fingers crossed, 1C.
With Natasha's hand I would have gone 2S showing a stand alone independent suit (just as well she didn't as we would have ended up in an unmakeable 6S)
After my 3D jump we were always going to end in a slam.
I was not sure what Natasha's 5S meant I had a feeling it was for sign off, but I was not content with that.
We managed to bid 6C,6H and 6NT missing out the only safe slam contract of 6D!
Luckily Natasha managed to bring 6NT home for a good result.
Other tables were all over the place 7NT,6NT,6S .
No one in the safe 6D
Yes Phil, an excellent hand although I’m not sure why trying to get to difficult slams was so popular apart from the fun of it of course. There doesnt seem any easy way to get to 6D and it could well have been as fraught with problems as any of the other options. Well bid by Linda and Peter who stopped in 4S ... and turns out to be the best contract if you can’t find the Ds. We got lucky in 3NT and made 12 tricks but it wasn’t a bad spot even if we’d just made plus one when compared to the carnage elsewhere. Bidding was: 1c (no problem opening this.....if partner can’t muster a single bid it’s disappointing but you’re not going to want to be in game anyway); 1S from Alan; 2D (I would argue a reverse is sufficient since it’s forcing and conserves bidding space); 2H from Alan (4th suit forcing at this stage). That allowed me to rebid my Ds which should then show 6C and 5D or 5/5 at the very least if I was misbehaving again! Now, at this point Alan knows the huge misfit we’re faced with and opted for 3NT. If I have no S (which is more than possible) I would have 2 hearts so could get over to cash his AKQ of spades (at least). Of course, having made the 12 tricks you wish you’d been in it!! SOK
This was our opponents bidding on this hand.
Difficult to be confident of a slam.
2 pairs went successfully for 6H and one pair made 6NT which does not fare well on an opening club lead.
This hand comes from last weeks stepping stones session.
the computer says you can make 7S,H or indeed NT.
It seems to me that 7NT and 7S rely upon getting the diamonds completely right which is improbable.
7H on the other hand is fairly easy to see and bring home although it looks like the inferior contract.
in practice just 2 pairs bid the small slam.
How should the bidding go?
If you look through the scores for hand 8 you will see an unusual entry - 4H by East making 2 tricks ( 8 off)
How did this happen ? I confess I was the architect.
I opened a sub-standard 1S as West and North came in with 3D (weak). My partner bid 4H which was" obviously" a splinter bid.
South passed and I knew that 4H was a splinter but then managed to convince myself that perhaps it was natural and cant be a splinter as N/S have at least 10 hearts between them and not shown any interest. I passed.
Kathryn had the pleasure of playing the hand and duly went 8 down.
At least we weren't doubled ( LOL !!)
The amazing thing was we scored 25%
2 pairs lived dangerously on this hand bringing home 6 Spades , although missing 2 Aces.
How often does that happen. I guess the odds are that the Aces are split.
I thought about a slam try but decided against it. Wisely I thought but most pairs ended up with 12 tricks.
A couple of good slams last night.
I was happy with my bidding as North.
I was tempted to look for the grand slam but the Blackwood system, looking for specific Kings didn't suit, I wanted to find out if Alan had 3 or 4 kings.
So I settled for 6 Spades.
The play was notable for the way that Alan worked patiently away at every suit other than diamonds to give himself a chance to trump the 3rd round of diamonds and set up his 4th diamond as his 13th trick.
Notwithstanding the excellence of Alan’s play which conjured up an extra trick that shouldn’t be there, I support my partner (Mr John Gould) who decided against a slam. Our bidding was the same up to my 3S bid as South. After a long think, John then bid 4S which surely has to be correct especially without the ability to check for the number of Kings given the directed system. I might on have 20 points and with his 9 it isn’t enough for a slam even with his shape. OK I had 21 but it still isn’t enough when there’s plenty of room for me to be missing two (even three Kings on a bad day) or even the K and Q of spades. With the known information I think he’s right not to risk it.
The directed system didn’t help here of course but even if you had been able to find three Kings, south’s hand could still be missing the KQS and have only two trumps. If playing keycard at least one issue would be resolved but it’s still by no means nailed on.
Not so happy with my bidding here. Sorry Richard.
Perhaps I should have gone 2H straight away but did not want to use up space,
1S from Richard did not suggest extra values. My 3D was forcing, 3H from Richard suggested 3 card support.
Should have gone further.
How should the bidding have gone?
Shame about missing this one since it’s pretty much gold plated. I agree that perhaps a better first response would be 2H, setting us immediately on the path to game at least, followed by 3H or, even better, 4D (splinter agreeing H) from me. Should be pretty straightforward then. Even with the 1H response, I think with North’s blockbuster, as soon as South opens there has to be a slam try even if it isn’t quite reached for some reason. Whenever North takes charge with Blackwood, the specific King asking step would find South with KC. There’s a danger that a club lead could find the AQ clubs sitting in the wrong place and the contract is off before it even begins. That would be very unlucky though and with South having opened clubs, such a lead would be unlikely so a slam in H has to be a more than reasonable shout. Never mind though it was all still very good fun..... SOK
Our INDIVIDUAL TOURNAMENT took place on 29 January.
In a first for the club we had a three way tie for the winner all gaining 61%
Joan Crothall, Ian Kayes and Alan Kenny will share the title.
We had some technical glitches during the evening. We think that possibly 2 players were logged in and somehow excluded at the last minute if this happened Apologies.
Can you let us know who you were for future reference.
Our technical team have also had a problem translating the results from BBO to the website. Detailed information may not be available on the website. Hand detail and history are still available via the BBO website
A further problem is that the slams have not automatically been added to the Slam Master competition, see header under this competition, Kathryn Shaw is now in the lead with 19!
Back to normal next week!
6 diamonds is the right contract here.
Only one pair got there.
We didn't even get to game I am afraid.
Against us Richard opened 1C and Kathryn waded in with 2C showing the majors. I am always in favour of coming in with distributional hands not vulnerable. Do you pass ,bid 2c showing the majors, or make a weak jump overcall of 2S with the East hand ? All 3 bids were found last night. (although most Norths opened 1D and 2D was sometimes bid to show the majors)The resulting auction ended with Malcolm bidding 3NT and I led a heart which allowed Malcolm with good play to make +3 for a poor score for us. If I lead the K of spades Malcolm can duck for 1 round and still make 11 tricks - again poor for us.
6D can make but takes some playing on a spade lead
Regarding Board 1 from Friday night
This was bid against Alan and myself but we defended well and it did not make
Handicapped results for the 22nd January now received.
Updated results for the Moss Trophy are under Competitions
Mick Donaldson and Lucy Mellors are leading.
2 Rounds to go.
We missed out on the Slam here subsiding into 4H.
Gill ad Tom went the whole hog and bid the grand slam, 7H making.
What hapened at your table?
Just for info, this is how it went for us
South (Tom) with 17HCP and a rebid in clubs opened 1 heart.
North (Gill) with 12 HCP and 5 hearts bid Jacoby 2NT showing game going support in hearts.
South bid 3NT - a limit bid showing mid range hand of 16-18 points and forcing to game
North (would then want to cue bid 4S showing first round control in spades but as this takes the bidding beyond game in hearts) and so is forced to bid 4H, saying I have nothing more to say, as from my hand I can't see a slam.
South now knows that North has only bottom end support 12-15 points but with good shape in south hand bids 4NT Keycard.
North bids 5H showing the missing 2 keycards.
South knows that in addition to the keycards North has another 5 to 7 points (could be 2 kings or a king and 2 queens) so concludes that the contract should either 6 or 7 hearts. Given the shape of south's hand, it is reasonable to go 7H.
As it happens the other points in Norths hand don't help but the shape does.
Fortunately, a club was led which enabled the queen clubs to be captured with the Ace (although the club finesse would have worked).
I took 2 rounds of trumps, the King of clubs and ruffing another club leaves the 10 clubs and the 13th club as masters to drop Norths 2 losing diamonds.
Surprised nobody else had a go.
Congraulations to John & Kathryn, one of our most consistent pairs, who sealed their entry to the BeauRepaire final with their fine win on 15 January.
Alistair and Roger came second but are not eligible for our final.
A Silver Star has been awarded to Alan Kenny & Richard Horsley who have twice just missed out by a whisker on the usual 60%
One nore chance to qualify on 19 February.
I think this was our bidding.
No one found the diamond slam.
How should the bidding go?
I opened 1D . This was followed by a 1H overcall. Partner Alan bid 2H which promised diamond support and a willingness to play to at least the 3 level. Opposition bid 4H and I bid 5D which ended the bidding. A high heart would always be led so making 6D needs the KD with the leading player. If the singleton KD was with his partner you would probably still lose to it.
2D is game forcing.
3H shows AH (and no other ace)
Blackwood was belt and braces, once she saw AH Natasha was always going to play in 6NTto protect KS.
In fact 6NT only makes with a it of help from our friends.
6H is a better contract , reached by David and Iris, presumably with a different sequence.
Dear Fellow Bridge Players
What an extraordinary unpredictable year we have had. I hope throughout this bizarre time you have managed to keep healthy, safe and busy.
As things stand I cannot see that Belper Bridge Club will be returning to normal face-to-face Bridge anytime soon, although maybe spring and summer might bring us hope of retuning to some form of normality.
This year we have not been able to proceed with our normal Club business such as the AGM and all that it entails. This will have to wait till another date.
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Congratulations to all who did well in the December BeauRepaire heat.
Full details under Competitions.
John Hopkinson & Phil Hudson gained the gold star.
A number of Silver stars also awarded.
Those with 2 or more Silver stars will also gain automatic entry to the final in March.
Lots of slams last night but not many bid as 'scientifically' as we did on this one.
if AC is not led then the loser disappears and we make 13 , in this case for a top
Anyone suggest a more scientific bidding sequence?
Well, we didn't find the slam, but if you want a more scientific sequence, how about:
1S 3D (jump shift showing 16+pts)
4S (the jump showing a long solid spade suit) 4NT (RKCB in case partner has AC as well)
5S (2 key cards and the Q of trumps - so showing what was already promises and no ACs) 6S
To offer an answer to your question, I would have thought south could afford to respond 4NT to check the key card position. Who knows, you might get a surprising answer showing three key cards (AK Spades and A Clubs) and then with south’s hand you’d be pretty confident (not certain of course) that 7S would be on.
With us the bidding was entirely different in that our oppos made the rather surprising opening bid of 1C (!). Sitting north, I overcalled 4S and, of course, East very reasonably went 5C. Now, my partner has a decision to make....he went for 5S and that was passed out. No club lead and we duly made 7 but not a brilliant result. We agreed afterwards that partner could have reasoned that 6S would be likely to make. My difficulty was, when the 5S came round to me, I wasn’t entirely sure who was trying to kid who in the auction so couldn’t really do anything but leave it!
‘Twas ever thus....
We bid the hand 4D -4NT 5D - 6S
Have we gone mad? Well quite probably. The 4D bid showed a "good" 4S opener generally very good spades and could have an outside ace. Usually 8+ tricks.
The idea here is that a 4S opener shows a weaker hand something like
S KJ10xxxxx H x D Qx C xx
so usually partner doesnt get too excited.
Similarly opening 4C shows a good heart hand and 4H opener weaker hand
This convention goes by the weird name of NAMYATS. Why is it stayman backwards ? I dont know as its nothing to do with Stayman.
Its also called South African Texas after some American who got lost.
Last night that meant South played the hand and of course the AC was led and the overtrick disappeared.
Well you can't win em all.
Referring to Alan’s possible sequence of 4S showing a solid suit followed by 4NT as RKCB , when I play with John Griffin he maintains that if a solid suit has been shown , then any response to RKCB should ignore the key cards you have already shown in your solid suit. In the hand shown it makes no difference but suppose you showed a solid heart suit and had no other outside key cards , then you would have to reply 5S when that might be too high.
Obviously not something to adopt without careful partnership discussion.
No slams this week.
Check out this little stinker.
Natashas 1S is standard, I chose a 1NT response as the least of the evils.
Natasha left it , which I don't quarrel with and I made 6 tricks for a poor result.
Several tables did the same, then the rest are all over the place.
Someone managed to land in 2C N/S for a good result but how did they get there?
How do you think the bidding should go?
It was not our night last night.
Natasha decided to bid 3H over 2NT with the north hand and I joined in over the 3NT.
We paid the penalty.
5 tricks made for -1100
Of course if everyone had bid the slam , in diamonds,clubs or No trumps our sacrifice would have given us a top!
Congratulations to the 2 pairs that did.
How did the bidding go on your table?
Several pairs managed to find 6D on this hand but it seems to me it relies on a favourable outcome in spades.
Good odds for a slam?
On the other hand 5D can often be a poor contract if 3NT is making with overtricks?
The bidding at our table was
E S N W
2D  Pass 2S  3C
3D Pass 5D Pass
 8 playing tricks in an unnamed suit or some big balanced hand
 positive but saying nothing about spades (promises at least an Ace and a King)
On the lead of a club, I played the 8. West went up with the Ace (!) and then tried to cash the King, which I ruffed. Slam made
As you say, the slam needs things going for it. In this case the Q of spades falls doubleton. I should point out, though, that on the layout of the suits (and on a club lead), if you swap the 10 and Q of spades around, the slam still makes on a squeeze.
I pop this hand in from the Stepping Stones session on Wednesday.
I could not believe that more did not bid the Grand Slam.
Karen (a conservative bidder) seemed to be showing me 9 possibly 10 tricks in her own hand and I have 3 Aces and a King.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist.
Surely everyone must open the West hand with a strong bid of some kind?
Our substitute friends made short work of the bidding on this hand. Not surprising with 15 tricks off the top.
Disappointingly for us only 2 pairs went for the optimum contract!
How did the bidding go at your table?
My fault on this one
1H 3D (game force, slam interest)
3S (a reverse) 4NT (RKCB)
5C (0 or 3 key cards) Now here I went wrong. It must be 3 key cards with the reverse, and I should go on with 5NT. Howver in case it was 0 key cards, I bid 5D saying bid slam if you've got 3 key card otherwise pass.
Partner now bid 5S In my mind I was still unsure whether this showed 3 key cards so bid 5NT
Partner now bid 6H. By now I was jus happy to reach a slam, so passed. Oh dear.
This was our bidding.
2 pairs managed to find the heart slam.
how did the bidding go at your table?
Designed for intermediate players our first Roxburgh Shield took place on 28 October at 2pm
Brian and Nora Duffy had an excellent afternoon finishing with 64.5% and become our first holders.
Apologies to those who didn't manage to play because of technical difficulties.
The next Roxburgh shield is scheduled for 31 March.
30 October was our first online Thompson Trophy.
Congratulations to Stuart Sutton and Barbara Rogers our winners
Davdi and Julie Lashley came second with David Tyers and Iris White third.
Most pairs found the 6H bid on Hand 26, although my agricultural bidding had Natasha in consternation.
Only our winners Stuart and Barbara found the 6H on this hand.
How, I am sure you are asking yourselves, did we end up in 7H.
Well I had a brainstorm. On Natasha's rebid jump we clearly were heading towards a slam.
If she has both minor suit aces and QH then 7H must be on. When Natasha responded RKCB with 2 aces plus QH then I thought that's it.
What did I forget - A of trumps!
Interestingly on any lead other than diamonds 13 tricks can be made for a top. Wouldnt that have been a suprise!
Of course with abundance of tricks and to protect KD, 6NT should be the right resting place but how do I know which Aces Natasha has? If she does not have AC, 6NT could be very embarrrassing ( equal only to bidding 7H with an Ace missing!)
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Fortune continues to favour the bold.
I was unconvinced by my 3C bid, although vulnerable it would be on the strong side.
Natasha felt, and I agree that 3NT should be the right home.
Congratulations to the 2 pairs who successfully brought home 6C.
You need KC to be onside but 3NT is difficult if KC is offside and held up.
I expect many tables had something along these lines as bidding.
On a spade lead we were held to 11 tricks.
If south declares in 3NT a heart lead brings at least 12 if not 13 tricks?
Some bid and made 6D but it seems to me they should struggle against best defence
I can’t see 12 or 13 tricks on a H lead if South is in 3NT. I think the defence should still get two tricks if they play it right. A Spade lead from west will get South to 12 tricks though. Against us the vagaries of bridge damaged our oppos. Kathryn bid the correct contract, played it perfectly and still only got 27 percent for her troubles. Hardly seems fair! SOK
A slam going begging here.
the wonders if modern science this is being updated on a ferry. Not tried to edit.
You might want to edit this down a bit!
2 bidding sequences depending on whether West opens or not
If West opens 1 heart (only 10 pts but a nice hand nevertheless), then I think East is bound to go to a slam.
Various options here.
a) East can bid 4NT (Roman Key card Blackwood). A 5H reply would show 2 key cards (perforce the A & K of hearts) without the Q of trumps. East could bid a straight 6 hearts here, but that would rule out the possibility of a grand slam if West is stronger. So E could try 5NT asking for Ks. This gets the 6C reply showing none, so sign off in 6 hearts.
b) If playing Jacoby, bid 2NT to show a good raise to at least 3 hearts. Even if partner signs off in 3 hearts, you would still go on to slam. The problem is if partner is strong he would take control and never realise how strong you are and perhaps miss a grand slam
c) a temporising bid of2 clubs waiting for partner to show more info. When he bids 2 diamonds you can bid 4NT (now asking with Diamonds as trumps). Partner now shows only 1 key card. So it looks like you have a loser, so bid 6Hearts
d) east bids 3 spades, a splinter agreeing hearts. Don't think this gets you any further forward and again risks partner taking control
If West passes. then East opens, his opening would depend on the system agreement and could be 1C, 1D or 1H.
a) 1H. I think west should now bid 4C, a splinter agreeing hearts. East now asks with 4NT and, after partner shows 2 key cards, bid 6H. As partner hasn't opened, then a grand slam doesn't seem to be on.
b) 1D (my systemic bid). West will bid 1H. Now it's difficult as West could be quite weak. So going straight to 4NT is perhaps over bold. A jump to 4H is likely to be passed, even though West knows he's got a double fit in diamonds and hearts. Instead east could try a splinter with 3S (even though he's got the Ace, but I still think West will sign off in 4H.
c) 1C. Again I think West will bid 1H. West won't know about the double fit, so even less likely to be encouraged to go on with the options in b)
We keep missing the slams!
I valued this South hand at 9 tricks so opened with 2C rather than our game forcing 2D.
I can't fault Natasha's bidding when she knows I have 9 tricks she thinks she can add 2 tricks not 3.
Even if I had opened 2C game forcing and Natasha showed me AC it would still have been a guess as to whether I bid the slam.
Some pairs got there though and Richard and Alan went one better with 6NT. How do you make that?
I was leaving this to Alan since he bid the 6NT. He started with our 8PT or strong balanced opening of 2D. Now, in our system, my 2S response was simply a positive relay saying nothing in particular about spades. 3S from Alan showing his suit and 4S from me since I’m minimum. Alan bid 4NT - finding me with one Ace - and because our system meant I would be the one playing in Spades, he neatly bid 6NT as a protection against a lead through either of his Kings. Since I had values for at least an Ace and a King the KH was pretty nailed on. Of course it still needs the missing Ace to be in the right place if West makes a passive lead but it was and so 6 makes comfortably. In the actual play west led a D so the contract was claimed immediately after the AD won. Just occasionally partner knows what he’s doing...... SOK
From September we have recommenced all our usual competitions albeit in a virtual format.
See Competitions for full details
Congratulations to Theo Rofer and Terry Roberts who won our first BeauRepaire heat on 18 September they automatically qualify for the March final.
Stephan Read and Elaine Coldicott, Ian Roxburgh and Tim Hallam scored over 60%, earning silver stars and the possibility of qualifying.
25 September brings the first round of the MossTrophy. all can play, handicapped scores adjusted for NGS rankings will be carried forward through the year.
We missed this slam. I expect our bidding, shown, was replicated at many tables.
Congratulations to the 2 pairs who bid it. Needing a good spade outcome.
Fortune favours the bold!
Lots of slams around last night.
Ian Roxburgh has slipped into the lead in the Slamaster Trophy after his grand slam (lucky with the finesse!)
I have chosen this stinker as the hand of the week.
I really can't blame Natasha for stretching a point or two for her 2D.
Perhaps you should never bid 3NT with a void - I certainly regretted it and felt lucky to get away with 1 down.
6D can make but how do you bid it?
Our bidding went
1H 1NT (not enough points to bid at the 2 level)
2S (a reverse showing 16+ pts) 3D
3NT (hating diamonds) 4D
pass (Don't have the nerve to raise to 5 , let alone 6, with a void)
Fortunately it was enough to score 50% on the board
Most pairs managed to find the spade slam on this hand but not at our table.
What happened at yours?
Interesting hand. With us, Alan decided to discount his singleton JH and open a weak 2S (he could easily have opted for a 1S opening as some pairs did). I made a 2NT Ogust inquiry and when Alan showed good points and a poor Spade suit (not a surprise given my holding!) I pushed on. After 4NT found Alan with only one Ace, I left it at 5S. We were trumped bound and with my H holding you might not even make 5 if Alan also had 3 small Hearts.
With a 1S opening there would be ways to make a better stab especially if one was playing a system to show first or second round control cue bids. Looking at some of the other bidding sequences however it seems Blackwood was popular, and then you have the same dilemma.
Fortune favours the brave punt but I’m sorry to say I shied away from it.
Some of you have been asking how tables are allocated.
Apparently the machine simply takes pairs in the order in which they log on.
If you run out of time on a hand the machine will try to award a result if the position is totally clear eg, just a couple of cards to go.
If this does not happen then the machine initially awards 50/50 but the TD will then review this and award a fair result. So there is no advantage in "running out the clock".
When the TD adjusts he will then inform both pairs of the revised result
No slams last last night but this looked like an interesting hand.
Only 24 points but a double fit, always useful.
Best played in 4 spades in match pointing, you can afford the KS to be offside and still make.
Feedback has suggested people prefer 7 minutes a hand to 8 minutes by almost 2 to 1
It also enables us to play 26 or 27 boards instead of 24 when this provides a more balanced movement.
We will continue with this at the present time.
Julie & David ,Mike & Lucy were the only pairs to find this E/W slam last night.
Several pairs found the spade slam on this hand.
The trick is to identify the Heart shortage, perhaps a splinter bid?
I missed this week so I need input into how the hand should be bid.
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This hand has been suggested by Malcolm.
His commentary follows.
Anyone can suggest a hand if the week and I will include.
you don't have to provide commentary.
I do not know if it is too late to include a second hand of the week but I think hand 23 is very interesting and shows off the skills of the N/S winners. It is surprising how few bid a slam despite having 32 points and controls in every suit. If you could look at both the N and S hands I think you would like to be in 6D if playing teams but 6NT if playing pairs as all it requires for that is a 3-2 break in clubs to make. The N/S winners were in 6NT and managed to make despite the 4-1 club break. They tested the clubs early and after playing 2 rounds and finding the 4-1 break played off their spade and diamonds and backed their judgment that W had come down to CJx and HKx. When AH was played and W did not throw away his KH to avoid being endplayed then the contract was brought home by playing another heart.
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I thought this more interesting than the pretty much universal slam bid by east wests on board 11
On a spade lead the machine says you should be restricted to 10 tricks whatever the contract.
I will not quarrel with Natasha's removal to 5C, I actually think I might have gone 6H?
I contemplated 6C knowing that 5C was not likely to be a good result but those 2 diamonds stared me in the face and said keep quiet!
Just for once we got something right.
My 2NT showed Natasha 2 aces.
Our version of RKCB does not contain a continuation to ask for QH in this sequence so I just went for it.
I guess I expected a slightly stronger hand from Natasha and probably an extra heart, Bidding the grand with. 10 card fit without QH would seem odds on. With only 9 cards it is perhaps not such a good bid?
anyway this time it worked.
We played this hand against our subs, including our TD.
3D was alerted as a very powerful hand.
the 3NT was a very courageous bid by Jonathan giving them a top.
Everyone else ended up in a part score although 7C can make.
Virtually everyone ended up in 4H.
Who would have thought it mattered so much who bid Hearts first.
Natasha had no clue on the opening lead and chose QS, I would have done the same.
Suddenly my AK Clubs we're worthless! And a poor result ensued. The start of our slide from a good start.
THE VIRTUE OF A PASSIVE DEFENCE
Virtually everyone got to the East West slam on this hand.
Sitting as south I had to choose the opening lead.
it seemed imperative not to give anything away ie. passive defence.
So not to lead from either Queen. The opposition had not explored a spade fit so a spade, six , second from rubbish, was my answer.
Not unreasonably declarer took the finesse immediately hoping I had QS. Not so.
The slam can still be made by taking the heart finesse the wrong way round but this is counter intuitive. So eventually I ended up making QH as well, one down.
Someone made 6NT even with a 6S lead.
You’re not usually associated with being passive Phil!
The same start at our table, losing to QS. Partner tried to see if he could test out how things were breaking but things were too flat all the way round. He ended up two off After taking the H finesse losing to the Q.
Perhaps I should have been more passive with my bidding!
SOK (currently never sitting out at all!)
I had an easy ride on this. I was in 6NT by West:
E - W
1H - 2NT (balanced 16-18 pts)
6NT - pass
North led a heart from his 4 to the 8. South went up with the Q and I made the Ace. Crossed to a heart in dummy and ran the J of spades which lost. On the heart return, I claimed the remaining tricks. This wasn't accepted, so I played the K&J of heats throwing 2 clubs, cashed the 10 of spades and claimed again, which was accepted.
Another slam passes us by although not everyone made it.
Not sure what is the safest way to guarantee 12 tricks.
Our bidding does not fully reflect these extreme hands.
results ranging from 5S making to 6C doubled making.
At our table the bidding went
W N E S
3C 3S 4C 4S
I did consider doubling 5C and I would have certainly doubled 6C, and suffered the same fate as the rest who doubled it.
In 5S, E led the A of clubs, followed by a second club, which gave me a ruff and discard, allowing the contract to make. One off is still a good score.
The "optimum" score for the board is 6S dbled, -2. Not surprisingly, no-one finished in that.
Our opponents were not the only ones to be in the unfortunate contract of 2S dbled by West. Which not suprisingly did not fare well.
i was spitting teeth when partner passed the double, I should have trusted her.
Chatting over the garden wall
This was Tom and Gill’s bidding last night. 3C showed slam interest but they settled for 3NT.
Despite 32 points the slam relies on the club’s splitting and a non diamond lead so probably not a good bid.
Yet many bid it. On lead, the choice was between spades and diamonds. I would usually choose the major with no stayman type interest shown by the opposition. I also had Gill’s diamond bid so choose 8S as so many did.
A slam chance for east west.
Someone had a go at 7S which the computer says can make.
6NT is a good bid but 6S feels safer.
Playing with Kathryn our bidding was 1D , 2S , 2NT , 3NT , 6NT
we missed several slams last night.
we didn’t manage to get to game on this one!
Well done the 2 pairs that could see the slam potential
Again no slams.
We rode our luck a bit last night.
Here is a good example.
3S is a bit of an overbid here but there clearly seemed to be a game on.
having found our fit 4NT seemed obligatory. Natasha gave me nil point , I thought I could convey that my hearts were much longer than my Spades with the 5H bid which Natasha could remove.
Most ended up in the heart game with mixed results.
Until we can resume our normal Bridge sessions we are proposing to continue with the virtual bridge on Fridays at 6.30 and perhaps developing it even further.
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No slams last night, but this was an interesting hand.
Not sure on our precise bidding but Bernie bid 4S and I took the bold step of going 5H, ending up 1 down for a good result.
Some made 13 tricks in Spades , if there is not a diamond lead.
I made 13 tricks on a heart lead, as we were vulnerable I would have been pushed to 5 but not 6 - as you said a diamond lead would have gone down 2. Jill
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Until we can resume our normal Bridge sessions we are proposing to continue with this format on Fridays and perhaps developing it even further.
Last Friday’s session was free for all the participants. However, from next week the players will need to pay “table money” to cover the club's costs.
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This is our first foray as a club into the virtual unknown.
First and foremost it is intended to be fun.
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Bear in mind some of our participants have very little online bridge experience, so be understanding.
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A DOUBLING QUIZ
What does the last double mean in each of these sequences?
I have received 2 helpful and broadly agreeing responses as follows
As ever these things depend on partnership agreements, but playing with Jill I would assume the following:
Happy to compete in either of the unbid suits.
No partnership agreement!
Suggesting a club lead.
I hope Jill would agree!!!
From Alan Kenny
I’d take the dble for take out. I’d expect the shape to be at least 5-4 in the other 2 suits with opening values. If instead of double they bid 2NT (or 2D if you prefer) that would also be the other two suits but showing at least 5-5, but could be weaker in points than a double.
It depends what the 2C bid is. If the 2C is an ACOL or Benji, 2C, then I’d take the double as showing clubs. However some people play the Truscott defence over an ACOL 2C. Depending on the details of the agreement it would be showing either clubs and hearts or diamonds and spades with 2NT showing the other of the pair. If the 2C is a Precision 2C, which promises clubs, then the double is for take out.
I’d play this for penalties.
Assuming the 2C is Stayman, then the double shows clubs. In the unlikely event that it’s showing clubs, then the double would be for takeout
I’d play this for takeout. As a side comment, it might be worth checking what the 3H bid promises. In traditional ACOL it shows 10-12 points with 4 card support, but if the opposition is playing a Jacoby 2NT, then the 3H bid may be weaker
I am not sure it needs much further commentry.
If in doubt you can usually sort out whether a bid is for take out or penalty from first principles.
Low bids doubled are rarely for penalty.
If the doubled bid is artificial then the double is often lead directing and could be left in in the unlikely event that another bid from the opposition is not forthcoming
Any more comments?
In the first example I tend to be be a little bit more aggressive than Alan and my double could be 4-4 in the unbid suits and as little as 10 HCP , whether a passed hand or not. In the example shown it is by a passed hand so would therefore not usually have the values of an opening hand. As always , vulnerability needs to be taken in to account.
Phil, try these 1) tell me your better suit, C or H 2) with Jenny, 2C means 23+ points, so Dble is most unlikely, but presumably says tell me your best suit, I have some strength 3) Dble after pre empt, happy in any suit except H, tell me your best one. Sec9nd Dble by partner is for penalties 4) After NT bid, usually for penalties 5) I have some strength, happy in any suit other than H, let’s try and find a fit, tell me your best suit. I haven’t looked at the other answers yet Cheers Peter
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DOUBLES – PART 1
Nb You need to agree your system with your partner.
DOUBLING A SUIT CONTRACT
Normally the doubling of a suit contract at a low level is asking your partner to bid – a TAKEOUT DOUBLE.
It is normally made with around the points to open and often indicates a shortage in the opponents bid suit. The important thing is to know what you will do when your partner bids ie you can cope with any bid, always assume that partner will bid your weakest suit.
It is very rare for partner to leave the double in, and almost always a mistake.
Given you have to bid even with no points, if you have a good hand 8 or more points you need to jump in response other wise game may be missed.
If the opponents make a second bid partner is not obliged to bid and will pass with a weak hand.
Note even if you have a one suited hand , if you have good points, 15 or more it is best to double first and then bid your suit so partner can differentiate this from a hand you might make a simple or jump overcall on with limited points
Systems vary about doubling higher suit bids , usually preemptive.
A simple rule might be that any bid of a suit 2S or lower is for takeout.
A double of a preemptive bid below game is for takeout.
A double of a preemptive bid at game level is for penalties.
DOUBLING A 1NT OPENING.
This is not normally for takeout but is made primarily for penalties with say 16 points or more.
NB If your partner doubles 1NT and you are very weak – 0-4 points you must take out the double by bidding your longest suit.
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BORROWING A KING
The first in an occasional series of more technical notes.
Please feel free to contribute and give feedback if this item is welcome or useful
Ever heard of borrowing a king?
Also know as “balancing” I think.
Assume for example you are sitting North , East opens a weak 1NT and there are 2 passes, should you bid?
Let’s assume you have no artificial defence available and you are not strong enough to double or bid on your own. Let’s say you have 10 points
Yet you know that on average the opposition will have may be 18 points between them . West will have between 0- 11 points.
Your partner will have on average 12 points.
In this situation , borrow a king, 3 points and see whether you feel like bidding, quality of suit is important here but with an artificial 13 points you may often feel like bidding.
As partner of a player in this “balancing” situation , South in the illustration, you have to be careful. Knock a King off mentally to measure your response.
The same applies in the situation , 1of a suit followed by 2 passes, but bear in mind there is a bigger point range for opener and you may be reopening and giving him or her a second bite at the cherry.
Malcolm Young contribution
Replace the question marks by each of the remaining digits 1-9 in this grid to make the sums work. You have been given digits 7 and 9 to start you off.
Peter has it already and so has Mick
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Something about cue-bidding has been suggested (negative doubles to follow)
At its simplest a cue-bid is a bid of the opponents suit. This is normally a redundant bid as you would not need it to bid naturally. If you hold the natural suit you keep quiet and hope the opposition get into trouble!
Bridge folk being resourceful want to use any wasted bid to show something artificial.
Click here for one use of a cue bid a "Micheals cue bid" others to follow
See Alan's comments
LAST AMENDED 9AM 7 APRIL
Alan refers to the UNUSUAL 2NT on his notes on Michaels Cue Bids.
Here is an earlier note which I wrote when discussing this in the past.
To complete our look at bidding 2 suited hands over the oppositions first bid copy and paste this link.
There are variuos versions each with advantages and disadvantages. The key is to ensure you and your partner are rock solid on what each of yopur bids mean.
The key is partnership understanding!
LAST AMENDED 3.30PM 13 APRIL
Puzzle 1 : January =717; February = 8216; March = 5315; May 3515; June = 4624; April = 5420 (number of letters in the month X order of the month)
Puzzle 2 : 1234 = 0; 6213 = 6; 2155 =1; 5424 = 3; 9274 = 4 (the difference between the sum of middle and extreme numbers)
1 shoe = 5
1 man = 5
1 cone = 2
If you look carefully at the man in last row he is now wearing shoes and carrying 2 cone. (may be specsavers)
Therefore the last row is:
1 shoe + [(1 man + 2 shoes + 2 cones)] x 2
5 + [(5 + 10 + 4)] x 2 = 43
Angie Matan Puzzle
Angela and Craig want to know how to bid this hand to arrive at the best contract.
The simplest way to bid this hand would be 1NT by N raised to 3NT by S. Whatever is led you can play the 9 winning tricks on top and when the Q doubleton drops you make 3 overtricks.
Although in theory you can always make 12 tricks if you take the right view you would never bid the slam with so few points.
Yes the contract should be 3NT but if as Malcolm suggests N takes the first 7 tricks then plays the A Clubs then a small Club Yes the Q will drop and be won by S with the K but S can't get back to N to play the rest of the Clubs and will only make 11 tricks. N can't try a Club finess once their other winners have been taken because of the same problem. Ian Roxburgh
If you are in 3NT and have found diamonds to split 3-2 giving you 7 tricks from AS , AH and 5 diamonds you only need 2 club tricks in order to make a total of 9 and do not need to risk a finesse. At that stage the best way to play the clubs is to play KC then JC ( with no intention of running it but planning to play AC on it even if not covered by QC ). As the cards lie you make 12 tricks when the Q drops - on another day you might make 12 tricks because JC is covered by a hand holding Q to 3 clubs. Malcolm
Our third hand to look at
Any more comments before I archive this one?
LAST AMENDED 11.30am 4 APRIL
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See Peter & Jenny's comments
LAST AMENDED 7.30 27 MARCH
Thanks very much to everyone who contributed to our discussion on that first hand.
Looks like we are going to have plenty of time for more discussion!
The format was getting a bit unmanageable so what I have done is to archive the original thread so you can see individual contributions if you wish.
I have now summarised where we got to on a word document which you can access by clicking here.
Any further comments I will amend on the word document.
The date below will show if anything has been updated.
I have opened a new thread for a second hand below , same format , and would welcome thoughts on this one.
LAST UPDATED 8.30 26 MARCH
See Alan's comments about the use of 3S after 2NT
In the absence of ‘live’ bridge I thought I would continue with our discussions from last week about bidding big hands.
The first hand we looked at was
I think most people would bid this with their strongest bid (let’s call it 2C)
This is not free from doubt as you could downgrade it slightly and bid 2NT
We had 3 different hands in response.
Whether playing a relay or positive /negative system we were all happy that we would respond 2D (or pass if any interference) and after a 2NT rebid would pass again. Our 1 point is not really worth much and it is difficult to see any entry at all. Indeed our partner may struggle to make 2NT depending on how the clubs lie.
Our second hand we did not get to discuss was.
Despite only having 3 points, after the 2NT rebid you have to bid again. Opposite 23 points and with useful spades and a 5 card club suit you have enough to bid 3NT.
Having said that you should first bid 3C (stayman) as a fit in Spades might make this a safer contract. Partner should first respond 3H (better than 3NT to show 4 cards in both majors). Initially disappointed you bid 3NT and then partner, realising you must have 4 spades, bids 4S.
Any comments? Our more experienced players can pull me up anything I have said wrong. Are all our less experienced players on board?
Okay our third responders hand was as follows
Initially I am going to leave it at that please give me your comments as to how the bidding should proceed. I will post a summary later. (Don’t worry the only person I will make look stupid is me!)
With regard to the third response hand,
Your hand is of little value except in spades, so bid 3 hearts as a transfer.
If partner’s bid indicated 23+ points then you must raise to 4S.
If partner has indicated 20 – 22 points, (bearing in mind that 20 is statistically more likely than 21 or 22), then you could make a strong case for passing 3S. The club void is useful if that is partner’s weak suit, but won’t give you any extra tricks in spades.
As it happens, partner has an excellent fit, but in bridge you can often make the wrong decision for the right reasons!
PS I note that my partner has a somewhat different opinion. Hey ho!
Thanks for doing this!
I have had a number of other comments from others,Natasha,Ben. Rather than copy them verbatim I will summarise and move our discussion on to the next bit.could take some Weeks?
We have just looked at this, a little late I know.
In our system, Jenny opened 2C, and with my hand , it’s much stronger than a negative reply, with 7 losers. I normally assume 2C is likely to have 4 losers, so I’m getting excited about potential slams.
I reply 2S, Jenny responds 3S to agree the suit. Then I cue bid 4C, Jenny cue bids 4D, I then bid 5C, then Jenny goes straight to 6S, realising that one ace is missing.
Is this ok?
Peter and Jenny
Obviously after bidding 2C 2D 2NT, you and your partner need to have agreed that the responses are the same as after your 2NT opening bid (assuming it's 20-22), but allowing for the extra couple of points in opener's hand
Hand 1 Fine
Hand 2 no problem. Is there a partnership agreement about which you bid first. My partners and I normally play 5 card puppet Stayman, which gives a different sequence but still gets us to to 4S played by the strong hand.
Now for the 3rd hand. As the cards are, the slam is an easy make. Swap the hearts and clubs round in the big hand and it may not be as easy, but still has reasonable chances.
You'd expect the bidding to start
2C 2D (I like to have 1½ quick tricks for a positive response)
2NT 3H (transfer to spades)
Now with 4 cards in the spade suit does the strong hand jump to 4 spades, or would that show a maximum 24 pts as well as 4 spades? Certainly the jump to 4S may encourage the responder to go further.
With a non-maximum I would just bid 3S with the opener's hand and then bid 4S with the responders hand. Missing 2 Aces the North hand isn't going to go to slam.
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Kathryn & John are our new Champions winning by some 7% from runners up Richard & Roman.
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With one round to go Ralph and Christine are still in the lead from Ray & Jill
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Linda & Roger were second with Alan & Richard third.
Phil & Natasha secured the first Stepping Stones challenge win in the equivalent Friday afternoon competition with Rhona & Bernie second.
A hand from Stepping Stones afternoon session.
Cannot remember the exact bidding on this hand but after Jan's, South, double of 4S, Andy, East, bravely redoubled and made his contract. Well done!! Top board for E/W !!
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Not sure who was bluffing whom we went one bid too far in this exchange with Linda and Roger.
5S should go one off.
What happened on your table?
At our table I (west) opened 3H. Mick (north) thought a bit and then bid 3NT. Anne (east) through a bit and then passed. 4S makes. Top board for Mick and Jill
With us it was 3H, 3NT, 4S, P, P and a bit of a think from Alan before passing. Difficult choice about whether to pass or try 5C but it was actually the right decision because 4S goes off with the correct defence. We didn’t find it though!
If either I lead a small spade (which I didn’t) or Alan covers the 10S when it was later led off the table, east loses two spades, a club and a diamond.
Just 2 pairs found this slam. Mary taking us to the more risky 6NT.
Assuming the heart honours are split a piece of cake on a non club lead.
As the cards lie it is safe even on a club lead.
The bidding went
As we're not playing transfers, the hand was wrong sided.
Fortunately the opposition didn't find the club lead and the contract made OK
Friday 31 January
Congratulations to David Ford our new individual winner, coming from behind to narrowly beat Roger and Ray.
Our first experiment with Butler scoring seemed to work. Let’s of see saws through the afternoon.
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Christine & Ralph back in the lead but only just!
Only a couple of pairs made a club slam on this hand Despite having 2 top diamond losers!
We let David and Pat bluff us out of game with their 4S bid!
I am pretty certain that Sean opened 1H as west although he denies this! I bid 2C and south came in with 2S. Sean bid 3C and I punted 6C. South led the AD and I dropped the Q expecting the worst. But no..South switched to a heart so 6C made. Maybe my little ruse worked ? No..South had singleton AD ! So a lucky slam made. John S
The last heat for the BeauRepaire resulted in John & Wilson turning their silver invitation into gold.
Anne & Mick received a silver invitation with a dead heat with Roger & Linda who have kindly agreed to be reserves.
The final line up for the final on 21 February is as follows.
Roman & Richard, Andrew & Alan, Phil & Natasha, Julie & Alan, Wilson & John, Anne & Mick with Roger & Linda as reserves
Most E/W pairs found the slam on Board 20, Sean & Linda bid (& made!) 6NT on this one. We should nickname them “lucky”
6C is the place to be but most were lured towards hearts as majors score better.
Board 20 was an easy hand for Sean to bid. I opened 1 spade and his bid was 6 spades! On hand 28 I opened a diamond (playing 15-17 NT) Sean bid a heart and I rebid 1NT. Sean asked for aces and kings finishing in 6NT. I was dreading the spade lead but luckily got a diamond.
How to bid a slam on this hand? Neary everyone in 4♥ making 13 tricks, except Roman and Janusz in 6♥ and Tim and Ian in 6♠ making 12 tricks.
I opened 1S and the bidding went as follows
4NT was Roman Keycard Blackwood and 5D showed 1 or 4 Key cards, so South knew we were missing the K of hearts or the Ace of Clubs. My partner didn't know we had the Q of hearts so was worried we could lose an extra trick in hearts, but this is unlikely with 10 hearts between us.
Could I bid something other than 4H to show a better hand? I've only got 12 High Card points but my shape is nice ( 6 loser hand). The problem with bidding 4 Clubs is that if it's a genuine suit (which is what partner says he would have taken it as) then he doesn't know we have a good heart fit. north going straight to 4NT after 3H seems a bit ambitious.
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Can anyone catch Linda & Roger
Linda is also in the lead for the Slammaster Trophy
Congratulations to John & Kathryn who retained the Thompson Trophy with late surge on the last round, passing Tom & Gill who had been leading right from the beginning.
When North South bid game I felt I had no defensive values and must bid 4S.
Doubled as expected it still gave us a reasonable result as 4H makes despite East’s heart honours.
Our first board of the night and I was at fault! Pass, Pass, 1C from me (playing five card majors), 1S and double from Janet. 2S from West and, obviously being away with the fairies, I decided to show my range with 2NT rather than bid Hearts! Passed out. I redeemed myself slightly by making 11 tricks so it wasn’t a complete disaster but it could have been. Rather gleefully, Alan (a five card major sceptic) pointed out afterwards that if we’d been playing four card majors none of this would have happened!
Great to see nine tables and to see Tom, Gill, Peter and Jennifer there again along with ‘newbies’ Craig and Angela. Hope they keep coming. Felt a bit for Tom and Gill who were way out in front for so long but well done Kathryn and John. Very enjoyable evening all told.
At our table the bidding was P, (P) , 1H , (1S) , 3H ( we do not play pre-emptively over overcalls ) ,
(P) , 4H , (P) , P , (P).
East led AS which allowed the losing diamond to be discarded on the third spade and 11 tricks were made by Iris.
I think this was how our bidding went.
You would have thought everyone would be in the same contract but not so.
This was our bidding.
I should have gone for the safer 6S option but thought it would score better in NT.
Then I made the wrong choice as to which way to finesse the heart queen.
Story of the night.
Others tried 7S and also went off.
We were lucky not to have this slam bid against us.
East should value his hand after a jump rebid and find the slam.
The big question is why did no one go for 6NT or may be 7H?
Several Pairs managed to get to 6D.
How did the bidding go?
Hand 12. We found the 6D slam as follows. I was west and opened 2C (a strong unbalanced hand) Roger bid his heart suit 2H. I bid my diamond suit 3D. Roger bid 4NT Blackwood. I replied 5H (2 aces) and Roger bid 6D. The ace of spades was led then we made the rest. Linda Hubbold
This week it was Malcolm & Jeff who found this 6NT slam.
We subsided into 3NT.
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Bear in mind then hands in the afternoon do not recognise our "special" rule!
Alan & Andrew were the only ones to bid 6 Spades on this hand and the only ones to make 12 tricks.
Very skillful, deep finesse says it should always make but not easy I suspect.
Andrew opened 2NT, which we play as 20-22. He's only got 19 but upgraded because of the 5th heart
I transferred to spades and then bid 3NT, without a fit I wasn't interested in going on.
Andrew bid 4 Spades and now I was interested
4NT (RKCB) 5C (0 or 3 key cards)
6S (it must be 3 key cards)
Andrew drew 2 rounds of trumps and used his entries to lead hearts and ruff them good, making 3 heart tricks, allowing him to discard a diamond and a club from dummy . He was able to ruff a diamond in dummy and a club in hand. Defender could take the QS whenever he wanted.
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This week a hand from another place.
How to bid and play this hand. Apparently 7H makes
On a heart lead, win in dummy, Play a spade to the Q, ruff a small spade, ruff a minor suit, Draw trumps and the hand is now good.
On a minor suit lead, win in dummy, Play a spade to the Q, ruff a small spade, play the remaining heart in dummy, ruff a minor suit, Draw trumps and the hand is now good.
Spade lead is also straightforward
I don't recommend bidding 7H as it needs a 3-3 break in hearts as well as the spade finesse,.
One sequence is
2H* 2D 4th suit forcing or alternatively 3NT
4H not really what East wants to hear, so possibly pass
* With various partners I play this as forcing to 2S after a 2 level response , so it can't be passed
3H* 3NT? East may elect to look for slam after the 3H bid. but could opt for 6NT which would go down
4S I don't want to play in 3NT
* I play this as forcing to game and promising 5 hearts after the 2 level response. It's showing 15+ points. West hasn't got 15+ high card points but the shape makes up for it,
I don't recommend opening it as a strong 2 or equivalent Benjie type bid, as there's not enough high card points, though that stands a good chance of getting you to a slam. I hope its the right one!
Interesting one. 7H is OK double dummy (finessing the KS and ruffing one S in dummy BEFORE cashing AS) but not sure how you’d get to it. West would take some persuading to be in anything other than some amount of Spades. Possible sequence: W might open 2D (8 playing tricks and someone will say if the rules don’t allow it). Most of my regular partners would then bid 2S (a positive response but nothing to do with Spades); 3S, perhaps 3NT?, 4H, 4S (perhaps a bit reluctantly). Now an aggressive West, knowing that partner has something in Hearts for his no trump bid, might have a look and get to 6S (with the above system it would be played by partner!). 7S goes off. Still can’t see how you get 7H though.
I do not think that a strong opening bid at the two level is a legal option on this hand. My understanding is that with a hand with fewer than 16 HCP you must have 5 controls – an ace counts as 2 controls and a king as 1 control.
We managed to get to the right contract despite my incorrect reply to RCK Blackwood.
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There were a few potential slams last night but I feature this extraordinary hand.
Neither Natasha nor Malcolm & John could let go.
Silent throughout my bidding was exemplary!
Phil – one tiny correction to the bidding as shown on board 3.
The bid of 5S was made by N not by S.
Once a pre-emptive bid has been made it is usual to leave subsequent bids to partner and that was the case here.
Another slam slips by.
Only bid by Ray & Jill.
how should it have gone?
Morning. Just because the best player in the room (our good friend Deep Finesse) says you can make 12 tricks, it doesn’t mean the slam should be bid. There are huge holes all over the place and, personally, I wouldn’t want to go near it.
I don't think you should be in slam on this hand
You are bound to lose the Ace of Diamond and need to catch the Q of hearts and the jack of diamonds (there are some breaks where one of these won't be needed). So slightly better than a 25% chance In this case everything's sitting right.
Lightened up so called experts. Good luck to Ray and Jill , good bid. You cannot ague with their logic having seen all the cards. However east could easily have the JD instead of JC. East could have the QH instead of the JH.
This grand slam seemed simple but eluded most people.
As Jeff would say, you can’t argue with success but in your bidding sequence you can’t be sure of the King of Hearts position. Partner could easily have a second/third Heart and then it’s relying on a finesse....
Perhaps the following: 1C; 2D (strong jump with strong D - possibly six); 3H (splinter agreeing D); 4C (cue bid); 4NT (far easier if S now takes control in my view); 5D (obviously 4 key cards). I think S can then bid 7 although it would be even better if you play a Q of trumps asking system and take virtually all doubt out of the question.
In my defence, we were obviously playing a simple bidding system but Joan must have some points somewhere. Ace spades, 4 , odds on KC that’s 7 points. Still another 4 plus, if she has a second king then I thought the grand slam was the right contract, with only one I stop in six.
Not many points between them but North South can make a Grand slam.
Only 3 pairs managed to find a small slam.
Our bidding was 1H; 2NT (raise to at least 3H); 4C (splinter); 4D (cue bid); 4H; 4NT; 5S (showing two Aces and length in hearts so forcing to 6 irrespective of K or Q); 6H from me. now the question is whether I should investigate a move to 7. Roman thought so but I’m not so sure. Asking for Kings would have left me none the wiser when only one was shown. Even though we both have nice singletons opposite partner Aces if we are missing KD the grand is likely to rest on a finesse (not wise). Also factored into my thinking was the fact that after my 4D cue bid, Roman hadn’t investigated the slam himself even though I subsequently found him to have the AS. To my mind there must be some weaknesses somewhere so I plumped for what I considered the most secure contract.
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North South had 2 chances last night of bidding and making 6C.
Only Glyn and Jan did both.
Here looks like the more difficult one to get to.
What happened at you table?
This is the one we found. The other escaped us thanks to some enterprising bidding by our opponents in Hearts which had the desired effect so fair play. Back to board 27: I opened 1C, 1S from Roman, 2C, 4D (second round control which, to be fair, I wasn’t precisely sure we were playing), 5C (I did consider bidding 4H showing my second round control but decided against risking it and in any case the hand isn’t that great) and then Roman took the chance on 6C offering an apology as he tabled his hand. Ruby cashed her AD and switched to a S. We agreed the most impressive thing that happened all night was Alan’s complete stoicism when I ruffed his AS! SOK
I was in 3NT making 8 tricks. John lead JH. How to make 9 or even 10 tricks in NT?
Ian bid 2S after my 2D, I complitely forgot that it indicated AS and things got complicated. After Ian's 5D I had nowhere to go, so it had to be 6NT. Ian went for a squeeze, Roman discarded diamonds and Ian made his 6D for the 12th trick.
Handicapped Result using NGS as at 27Jul19 Not Scaled
Pair Original Handicap Adjusted
North / South
1 4 Andrew Skidmore & Kathryn Shaw 65.77% +7.35% 58.42%
2 1 John Shaw & Natasha Romaine 61.01% +8.28% 52.73%
3 3 Adrie Box & Sean Connolly 50.30% -1.46% 51.76%
4 2 Peter & Jennifer Arnott 39.88% -5.02% 44.90%
5 6 Jeff Calladine & Gary Watson 50.00% +6.11% 43.89%
6 8 John Gould & Wilson Howden 45.83% +2.96% 42.87%
7 7 Janet Hobbs & David Ford 47.32% +4.51% 42.81%
8 5 Andrew Huskinson & Allan Doyle 39.88% -1.96% 41.84%
East / West
1 3 Jill & Ray Sellars 63.69% +4.75% 58.94%
2 7 Christine & Ralph Woodcock 55.06% -2.36% 57.42%
3 1 Julie Groves & Alan Bullock 46.43% -5.66% 52.09%
4 6 David Tyers & Iris White 52.08% N/A 52.08%
5 4 Peter Smith & Peter Bell 54.17% +3.71% 50.46%
6 5 Roger Eley & Linda Hubbold 55.95% +7.21% 48.74%
7 8 Anne McLean & Jean Robshaw 42.86% -0.37% 43.23%
8 2 Mary Jones & Robert Williamson 29.76% -5.58% 35.34%
Cumulative scores are shown under 2019/20 Competitions
Congratulations to our latest Gold qualifiers. Richard & Roman
.Only one pair bid the solid slam on this hand , fittingly Richard and Roman
How did they do it?
why did others not see the same thing?
The bidding was over in a flash....1H, 1S, 3S, 6S. The slam interest really depends on how you view South’s 15 points. I took the more aggressive stance and raised to 3S based on a nice A doubleton, good clubs and adding a couple of points for Roman’s card play! Malcolm and Kathryn weren’t impressed that no-one else bid it so they suffered. It was a good thing it wasn’t against Glyn after last week....he’d have been apoplectic.
Shouldn't North check for aces ? After all South may have
(a) S Qxxx Or (b) S Qxxx
H QJxx H KQxx
D AKJ D KQx
C Kx C KJ
On (a) you can lose AK of hearts and on (b) the 2 aces
The other option might be to start cue bidding with 4C over 3S with the disadvantage that this may help the oppos to find the right lead.Certainly a leap to 6S gives nothing away !
Everyone who is in spades makes 12 tricks. Is the slam not biddable?
I think this one is difficult to find given the combined point tally. Yes there are a couple of singletons but West’s is in partners suit which isn’t ideal. East’s H are rubbish and even the Ds aren’t great without knowing how the oppos cards lie. Although it makes, best out of it in my view. At our table I overcalled the 1H with 2C. Jan bid 2S and Roman came in with an enterprising 3NT which had the added benefit of irritating Glyn for the rest of the evening! Roman had clubs so was happy to go even six off given the S contract he assumed was against us. Glyn doubled so Roman duly bailed out into 4C of course. It didn’t stop a 4S bid but certainly got in the way of any potential slam hunt.....
On this board most people are in 4H making 12 or 13 tricks. Why hasn't anyone bid a slam?
To answer your question, there’s a good reason for not bidding a slam.....on a club lead you’d be two off before you started!! We missed the board so can’t comment on how things went at our table.
Cannot remember how the bidding went on this hand at our table, but good board for our visitors from Australia
How did it go at your table
At our table Malcolm played in 2H. West led the KD taken by the A. Malcolm played a second diamond and West played low allowing the 9 to make in dummy ! During the play of the hand the fire alarm went off which West said distracted her. It was quite noisy last night with various things happening and also the traffic noise on the A6. I suppose this can affect one's concentration. Me- I learnt to play bridge sitting at the table next to the jukebox in the students union. Playing songs by the Doors ,the Stones, The Who etc (those were the days). Maybe minor things like fire alarms going off have little impact. John S
I was wondering how the Shaw/Young axis had managed to make 9 tricks so thanks John for explaining! With us, Alan made his two hearts with little discomfort and a near top thanks to gross overbidding by others. The route to 4S must have been an interesting one to say the least! In the old days an Elsie would have been awarded for that.....
Christine & Ralph successfully bid and made this slam with the sequence as shown.
They made 12 tricks, the machine says you always make 13 tricks but I think that needs good guesswork or a double dummy.
Not everyone bid the slam and some only made 11 tricks.
Check out under competitions for the cumulative scores to date
Apologies forgot to mention June 21 was a BeauRepaire Heat
Congratulations Natasha & Phil for earning a Golden spot in the final
Thai was the iffier of our 2 slams made last night.
Jeff described the bidding as ‘Jethro Tull’ but I didn’t see what information I needed.
played from West the slam is bullet proof from East we need to avoid a heart lead and we’re lucky!
Sean and Jeff were the only ones bidding this slam (in clubs).
Our bidding was as shown but doesn’t tell the whole story.
I missed Jill’s bid and thought Natasha had opened 2C , alerted and an erroneous description given by me!
After a ruling I decided to just bid 3NT. I suspect we would not have got to the slam even if I had not been short sighted?
We could have perhaps been more scientific with our bidding.
Should we have been a little more aggressive with 6NT?
A 7 bid relies on a split in hearts or a finesse guess so is probably not a good bid.
Here is another slam that got away.
I didn't take Natasha's 3C as strong enough.
We actually made 13 tricks but I don't think we should.
No one bid the slam.
HOIST ON MY OWN PETARD
Lots or slams last night but this one was interesting
Roman said I seemed so confident bidding 6S ( I wasn’t really) he bid 7C!
I should have hesitated and looked like if was an iffy bid! Which is what I thought it was!
24 May scores as follows
Cumulative under competittions or click here
A difficult hand to bid.
After Natasha’s jump I felt I just had to take a jump in the dark.
One other pair got to the slam.
Congratulations John and Richard our latest gold qualifiers for the final.
Natasha & Phil gain a sliver star.
Why is no one in 6 or 7 Clubs
Jean and Liz, the only pair in 3NT making 12 tricks for top board
I hope I got the bidding right, in any case we ended in 3S, not a bad board for us
FRIDAY 3 MAY 2019
Friday 26 April evening
MOSS TROPHY HANDICAP COMPETITION
To be played once a month with 6 best results, after adjusting for the NGS ratings, to be scored for the final result
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a bridge (or a heart too far).
I wondered about doubling 4S bur wasn’t even sure my KS would make.
Natasha was tempted to 5H and Jan gave it the coup be grace!
What happened at your table?
Our bidding was much more low key than yours , viz. P , (1H) , double , (2H) , P , (P) , 3D , (P) , 3S , (P) , P , (P) .
Congratulations to John and Kathryn Shaw our first Gold qualifiers for next years Final.
We didn’t play this hand but sitting out we had no trouble at all in bidding 6S.
This was our bidding using 5 card majors and RKCB.
Easy when you are not under pressure at the table!
6NT scores better but if South is driving you probably stick to Spades or clubs.
The bidding with Andrew was 1S , 4D ( splinter ) , 4NT ( RKCB ) , 5H ( 2 key cards without QS ) , 6S .
This was Jill & Mick’s bidding. A long think by Mick and then a stab in the dark or a clever calculation depending on your view!
all down to North and the opening lead.
Yes that’s me. Knowing I would make the wrong decision as I had all night!
yep JS lead and the slam is cold.
Was there a clue I should have picked up?
At least we didn’t double, someone did.
I could see 11 tricks, and Jill didn’t need to have much for a 12th to materialise. Also of course there weren’t any clues, so there was a 2 to 1 chance of you leading a spade or a diamond.
If it makes you feel better they can always make 6C, even on a heart lead. They can take the ruffing finesse through the A of heart to set up a 3rd discard on the diamond (with 2 from the spades), rather than taking the diamond finesse.
This should be obvious if the heart lead is won by the K, because their partner wouldn't have under led an Ace against a slam.
Ben and I took the direct route to bidding this slam.
Knowing I should have 8 diamonds Ben just wanted to know if I had the Ace.
Interestingly you could argue that he should bid 6NT instead to protect the KH.
Suprisingly not many bid the slam.
Personally, I think your adjudication re the slam master result is perfectly right and proper!!
Re the hand of the week, speaking from afar, I would have been horrified to have missed a slam (apart from being given the chance to double 5H like Jeff and Alan did to get a ‘population of China’ score).
4NT from North seems good to me and a RKCB response of 5H (showing two key cards) would make 6NT unassailable. In fact, North could almost go straight there.....as you say it protects the KH.
Thanks for all your efforts in looking after us all for the past year....onwards and upwards for 2019/20!
Three Clubs Competition
Final Round Wednesday 27 March
A close run evening ending in a draw between Belper and Allestree.
Allestree retained the Trophy retaining their significant lead from the first two nights.
Ripley came second overall by one point from Belper
Anne & Mick
Jan & Phil
Bob & Jim
Ian R & Iris
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An interesting climax to the year.
Natasha,Richard & Phil all ended up with 19 slam points.
Richard will be awarded the trophy by virtue of him having played the fewest times in achieving his slams
On Friday nights 4 players averaged throughout the year over 56%, John Shaw highest with nearly 57% followed by Alan,Malcolm and Richard.
On Friday afternoons Jim Copson won the equivalent with over 61%
(nb on Friday afternoons district masters and above are ignored)
Our system was perfectly suited to this hand.
2D is game forcing and 2H shows no Ace.
Over 2S , 3C was enough to give me the impetus for 6.
We had the AD led against us and got 12 tricks.
Ray & Jill were the only other pair who bid the slam and must have had another lead , making 13 tricks.
It would have been good to open 2D but with north opening 1NT - duly announced as 11-14 I had no alternative but to jump to 4S making 13. No wonder bridge drives me mad!!!!
1NT doubled if left in probably makes 1 trick?
6 off for 1700 points?
TEAMS OF EIGHT
CONGRATULATIONS BELPER BLACK FOR COMING TOP OF DIVISION 4 AND BEING PROMOTED TO DIVISION 3
Belper Yellow and Purple will be in Devision 6
Good luck for next season
Perhaps fittingly our Last Venus & Mars Trophy has been won by our most successful married couple Kathryn & John Shaw
Mostly Playing with other partners
ANNUAL PAIRS COMPETITION
Congratulations to our new Champions
Malcolm & Jeff
Winning both individual sessions, the second by a good margin
Runners up Richard & Alan
NB for reasons unknown the combined scores are not appearing as the latest result but can be accessed via the results tab
There was also a difficulty with the scores being counted for NGS but that seems to have resolved itself as well
This hand was interesting , several pairs including Sean & Julie against us,bid to 6 diamonds. Relying on a club finesse to bring it home.
Our Champions Malcolm & Jeff went that one step further and bid 6NT for a top.
Apparently the bidding had some added nuances such as:
After 3NT by West, a grin by North before passing, then 5S by East and a scowl by West before bidding 6H, ending with a smug grin by South before passing.
Appears that facial expressions were better than the bidding.
Congratulations to Malcolm and John winners of this years Challenge Trophy.
A good result from Jeff and Kathryn last night brought them much closer but they were still full % ahead.
Eyes now turn to the Slamaster competition with Natasha edging to within one slam of Richard our current leader.
Some have queried how we could play in 2S by West making one trick!
Well here you go. I will leave you to decide who made the worst bids!
2H from North stated to be Lucas. Double from Natasha. Pass from David. All perhaps questionable?
I asked David whether the other suit was a minor he said probably but he was not sure.
I really didn’t want to pass and find 2H doubled makes, which it would have done.
I didn’t want to bid a 3 card minor and walk into an ambush from North South. I reasoned East should have Spades so 2S would be the least worst!
pass from North (first sensible bid!)
Natsha reasons that I may have reasonable Spades and her diamonds aren’t great so passes as well.
Just one trick but over 50% of the available points!
Looks like an ‘Elsie’ to me. anyone remember them?
Only one word for it Phil......debacle! (For all four of you.....!) Interesting though - we finished in 4S making 12 tricks.
With all the rhetoric and hilarity, this board was not too bad for us (E/W). David and Glyn (N/S) could have done so much better if not trying to be Machiavellian.
Lots of slams around last night but this one seemed to elude most pairs.
Playing in Clubs has to be the answer. 6NT can’t make?
Just to say, 6NT, which John and myself found, can and does make and is the optimum contract. Bidding.... 1D, 2C, 2NT (forcing to game and, if we weren’t already this puts us into slam territory), 4C (Roman Gerber, Ace asking), 4S (two Aces if same colour), 6NT.
Well done to Wilson and John. Solid performance which we could quite keep pace with.
FRIDAY 15 FEBRUARY
Our BEAUREPAIRE FINALS night
Congratulations to John & Wilson for a fine win in the closed room for the BEAUREPAIRE trophy.
In the open room a close competition finally ended with a dead heat between Alan & Andrew and Mary & Robert for the BEAUREPAIRE plate.
Congratulations to John & Wilson our last Gold star qualifiers
Invitations will now be issued for the Final on 15 February
Wednesday 16 January
Black v Allestree Blue
Belper won 15-5
Yellow Team v Bakewell B
Belper won 13-7
Purple Team v Bakewell C (Away)
Belper lost 2-18
For names see below
our 2018 Individual winner
Slipping past Anne McLean on the very last hand of the night.
What happened to all the men ?
Highest placed sixth
Sorry about the computer glitch last night.
Strange how we can forget the good old days!
Well done David & Glyn our latest Gold Star qualifiers for the BeauRepaire Final
Glyn has also qualified with Jan so he has a difficult choice to make.
Silver stars for Peter & Peter and Ian & Andrew
One more qualifying round to go
John lead a small club to Kathryn's JC and we were 2 down
The THOMPSON TROPHY
CONGRATULATIONS to Andrew and Ruby winners of this year's THOMPSON TROPHY
This hand seemed to create a battle royal at most tables.
My 2C indicated both majors.
I was not going to be shut out with such a good hand so risked 5H.
Natasha converted to 5S.
We went 1 off for an average. Someone made 5S doubled. Others made 5C doubled.
Describing North as 8 playing tricks is a bit of a push. 2D relay.
3H strong and positive. 4C and we had found the club fit.
6 clubs makes 6 Spades shouldn’t.
Been out so sorry for the late submission.
At least you bid the slam. The only ones!
6S can and does make but it takes some playing. Say, AD lead and assume another D which declarer ruffs, AK Spades and the Q H. Cross to dummy with club to the K, taking care of the singleton Jack which is key. Then play AK hearts dumping the A and Q of clubs! Next ruff the diamond and back to dummy with a club to either the 10 or 8. Play the other one of those to take west’s final club and then when you play dummy’s last club west is stuffed!! All he has left are his two trumps
There’ll be a fancy name for this like a strip squeeze or a Jeff coup - either way you’d be proud if you played it that way.
That was the bidding at our table, some might say agricultural
Flush from the success of an ultralight 3 Diamonds on a previous hand I decided 3D was the right opener on this, as we were vulnerable and I hand nothing at all in the majors.
Ruby and Kathryn found the diamond slam which is tricky.
How do we think the bidding should have gone?
One of 2 hands last night where we bid 6NT but made 7.
Should we have investigtaed further on this one?
Should you have investigated 7NT? Well, South's jump straight to 6NT isn't going to help but I'm not sure if, after going through the gears and finding a K missing, you're going to opt for 7 anyway. That said, an attempt could come via a different sequence.
With us it was 1D, 1S, 3D at the start. Should I bid 2NT? I decided against it with such a distributional hand. Yes, partner's bid means my KS has value but it's still a singleton and partner doesn't have to have brilliant spades. There's also my pesky doubleton club. Showing Hearts would be nice but a reverse should show 5D and 4H specifically. Considering everything 3D was my favoured option. 4NT from partner, 5S from me (two key cards and QD) and 6D from Alan for a modest board.
It is difficult for Alan to ask for Kings. If he does and discovers he's one short, he's committed to 6NT with a missing K which could be risky.
Now, if Alan's first response was a strong jump to 2S (which was an option he considered) we might possibly get to a stage where one of us punts 7NT because of our long suits. Still risky though without a widget to ask for specific Kings.
Congratulatons Anne and Mick our latest silver star qualifiers.
Linda and Roger already have a gold star.
We played this hand switched as North/South
I think this is how our bidding went.
what to lead ?
either AH or KS.
having been burnt earlier in the night by not leading our suit and seeing 2 tricks disappear I went for AH, big mistake!
Well done Andrew and Allan for bidding it.
what happened at your table?
After S had opened in S , overcalled by W in D , E bid 3NT which was taken out in to 4D , raised to 5D .
A spade was led which was won by E in dummy . The 10 D was run which N did well to duck . E continued with a spade which was won by S who switched to his singleton C . Declarer won with JC and played a trump which was won by N with AD . Lead of a C will now defeat the contract but this will only work if N believes W has started with 5 clubs but never bid them – understandably perhaps N switches instead to another S and the contract is made.
This was an interesting hand.
I judged the West hand to be too strong to open preemptive or as gambling 3NT?
8 playing tricks in clubs seemed to be the best description. Natasha took a flyer with 3NT and we escaped a diamond lead making 12 tricks.
SATURDAY 6 OCTOBER
16 pairs thoughly enjoyed their day at Kedleston golf club.
Congratulations to all our successful pairs and thanks to all who made it such a memorable day.
Should you bid a slam on this hand?
From our bidding Natasha knew I had exactly 19 points.
Everyone made 12 tricks but it relies on either diamonds and spades splitting 3-3 and the KC being offside the Ace or both diamonds and spades splitting 3-3.
Can someone work out the combined odds? 33%?
Congratulations Anne and Jean the only ones to bid it. You can't argue with success.
after discussion with Malcolm the actual position is this.
you need both suits to split 3-3 and the KC to be onside.
One suit splitting 3-3 is 35%. Both suits 35% of 35% and then 50/50 for the K. Somewhere around 7 or 8%!
Congratulations Natasha and Jan our latest Silver Star pair , potential finalists for next year
SUMMER CUP FINAL
Wednesday 19 September
Congratulations to Team Orange who won a closely fought contest with Team Green
to win the Summer Cup and theAllsopp Trophy
Team Blue had an excellent night to win the Bronze Play off by some margin.
Full results will be posted later
I think that was the bidding at our table.
Diversity of contracts. What was the bidding at your table.
Comments: natasha.romaine@bt internet.com
Orange beat Purple in the first semi-final. Purple were winning after 3 quarters but lost right at the end
Green beat Blue comfortably in the other semi.
Pink beat Yellow in a friendly.
The Gold final will be contested by Orange & Green
Purple,Blue,Pink& Yellow will be in a 4 way battle for Bronze
Congratulations to John Shaw and Richard Horsley gold star qualifiers for our final in February
30 March was our last session of 2017-18
Final Competitions resolved saw
Malcolm & John crowned as Challenge Trophy winners
Jeff crowned as Slam Master
Alan Kenny top of our averages
Julie Wragg came top of the Stepping Stones Averages
David Hartland & Julie Groves top of our Stepping Stones Pairs
Our 50th Anniversary celebrations continue
13 tables enjoyed last nights cake and festivities