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LAST AMENDED 7.30 27 MARCH
Thanks very much to everyone who contributed to our discussion on that first hand.
Looks like we are going to have plenty of time for more discussion!
The format was getting a bit unmanageable so what I have done is to archive the original thread so you can see individual contributions if you wish.
I have now summarised where we got to on a word document which you can access by clicking here.
Any further comments I will amend on the word document.
The date below will show if anything has been updated.
I have opened a new thread for a second hand below , same format , and would welcome thoughts on this one.
LAST UPDATED 8.30 26 MARCH
See Alan's comments about the use of 3S after 2NT
In the absence of ‘live’ bridge I thought I would continue with our discussions from last week about bidding big hands.
The first hand we looked at was
I think most people would bid this with their strongest bid (let’s call it 2C)
This is not free from doubt as you could downgrade it slightly and bid 2NT
We had 3 different hands in response.
Whether playing a relay or positive /negative system we were all happy that we would respond 2D (or pass if any interference) and after a 2NT rebid would pass again. Our 1 point is not really worth much and it is difficult to see any entry at all. Indeed our partner may struggle to make 2NT depending on how the clubs lie.
Our second hand we did not get to discuss was.
Despite only having 3 points, after the 2NT rebid you have to bid again. Opposite 23 points and with useful spades and a 5 card club suit you have enough to bid 3NT.
Having said that you should first bid 3C (stayman) as a fit in Spades might make this a safer contract. Partner should first respond 3H (better than 3NT to show 4 cards in both majors). Initially disappointed you bid 3NT and then partner, realising you must have 4 spades, bids 4S.
Any comments? Our more experienced players can pull me up anything I have said wrong. Are all our less experienced players on board?
Okay our third responders hand was as follows
Initially I am going to leave it at that please give me your comments as to how the bidding should proceed. I will post a summary later. (Don’t worry the only person I will make look stupid is me!)
With regard to the third response hand,
Your hand is of little value except in spades, so bid 3 hearts as a transfer.
If partner’s bid indicated 23+ points then you must raise to 4S.
If partner has indicated 20 – 22 points, (bearing in mind that 20 is statistically more likely than 21 or 22), then you could make a strong case for passing 3S. The club void is useful if that is partner’s weak suit, but won’t give you any extra tricks in spades.
As it happens, partner has an excellent fit, but in bridge you can often make the wrong decision for the right reasons!
PS I note that my partner has a somewhat different opinion. Hey ho!
Thanks for doing this!
I have had a number of other comments from others,Natasha,Ben. Rather than copy them verbatim I will summarise and move our discussion on to the next bit.could take some Weeks?
We have just looked at this, a little late I know.
In our system, Jenny opened 2C, and with my hand , it’s much stronger than a negative reply, with 7 losers. I normally assume 2C is likely to have 4 losers, so I’m getting excited about potential slams.
I reply 2S, Jenny responds 3S to agree the suit. Then I cue bid 4C, Jenny cue bids 4D, I then bid 5C, then Jenny goes straight to 6S, realising that one ace is missing.
Is this ok?
Peter and Jenny
Obviously after bidding 2C 2D 2NT, you and your partner need to have agreed that the responses are the same as after your 2NT opening bid (assuming it's 20-22), but allowing for the extra couple of points in opener's hand
Hand 1 Fine
Hand 2 no problem. Is there a partnership agreement about which you bid first. My partners and I normally play 5 card puppet Stayman, which gives a different sequence but still gets us to to 4S played by the strong hand.
Now for the 3rd hand. As the cards are, the slam is an easy make. Swap the hearts and clubs round in the big hand and it may not be as easy, but still has reasonable chances.
You'd expect the bidding to start
2C 2D (I like to have 1½ quick tricks for a positive response)
2NT 3H (transfer to spades)
Now with 4 cards in the spade suit does the strong hand jump to 4 spades, or would that show a maximum 24 pts as well as 4 spades? Certainly the jump to 4S may encourage the responder to go further.
With a non-maximum I would just bid 3S with the opener's hand and then bid 4S with the responders hand. Missing 2 Aces the North hand isn't going to go to slam.
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As discussed on 13 March and following the cancellation of the evening session of 20 March the Pairs Competition has become a single evening event.
Kathryn & John are our new Champions winning by some 7% from runners up Richard & Roman.
The latest round and cumulative scores are recorded under Competitions or click here.
With one round to go Ralph and Christine are still in the lead from Ray & Jill
Congratulations to John and Malcolm , another good performance on the 6th March secured their winning the Challenge Trophy.
Linda & Roger were second with Alan & Richard third.
Phil & Natasha secured the first Stepping Stones challenge win in the equivalent Friday afternoon competition with Rhona & Bernie second.
A hand from Stepping Stones afternoon session.
Cannot remember the exact bidding on this hand but after Jan's, South, double of 4S, Andy, East, bravely redoubled and made his contract. Well done!! Top board for E/W !!
Friday 21 February
CONGRATULATIONS to BeauRepaire Trophy Winners with 73% Roman Gembicki and Richard Horsely
and runners up Phil and Natasha with 55%
CONGRATULATIONS to BeauRepair Plate winners with 60.50 % Glyn MacArthurs and David Ford and runners up Janet Hobbs and Malcolm Young with 52%
Wishing you happiness and success in your new home
Thank you everyone for the leaving gifts you gave me.
It has been a real pleasure to have taught and played
at Belper, and to see all the learners develop the way
they have is so rewarding.
I hope that on the occasions I re-visit Derby I will be
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Best wishes for the future.
Not sure who was bluffing whom we went one bid too far in this exchange with Linda and Roger.
5S should go one off.
What happened on your table?
At our table I (west) opened 3H. Mick (north) thought a bit and then bid 3NT. Anne (east) through a bit and then passed. 4S makes. Top board for Mick and Jill
With us it was 3H, 3NT, 4S, P, P and a bit of a think from Alan before passing. Difficult choice about whether to pass or try 5C but it was actually the right decision because 4S goes off with the correct defence. We didn’t find it though!
If either I lead a small spade (which I didn’t) or Alan covers the 10S when it was later led off the table, east loses two spades, a club and a diamond.
Just 2 pairs found this slam. Mary taking us to the more risky 6NT.
Assuming the heart honours are split a piece of cake on a non club lead.
As the cards lie it is safe even on a club lead.
What happened at your table?
The bidding went
As we're not playing transfers, the hand was wrong sided.
Fortunately the opposition didn't find the club lead and the contract made OK
Friday 31 January
Congratulations to David Ford our new individual winner, coming from behind to narrowly beat Roger and Ray.
Our first experiment with Butler scoring seemed to work. Let’s of see saws through the afternoon.
Ian and Sheryll won but with the qualification rules Bernie and David were the best placed “Stepping Stoners”
The inaugural Roxburgh Trophy will take place with this format on the 27 March.
Results from Round 10 , and cumulative, can be found under Competitions or click here
Christine & Ralph back in the lead but only just!
Only a couple of pairs made a club slam on this hand Despite having 2 top diamond losers!
We let David and Pat bluff us out of game with their 4S bid!
what happened at your table?
I am pretty certain that Sean opened 1H as west although he denies this! I bid 2C and south came in with 2S. Sean bid 3C and I punted 6C. South led the AD and I dropped the Q expecting the worst. But no..South switched to a heart so 6C made. Maybe my little ruse worked ? No..South had singleton AD ! So a lucky slam made. John S
The last heat for the BeauRepaire resulted in John & Wilson turning their silver invitation into gold.
Anne & Mick received a silver invitation with a dead heat with Roger & Linda who have kindly agreed to be reserves.
The final line up for the final on 21 February is as follows.
Roman & Richard, Andrew & Alan, Phil & Natasha, Julie & Alan, Wilson & John, Anne & Mick with Roger & Linda as reserves
Most E/W pairs found the slam on Board 20, Sean & Linda bid (& made!) 6NT on this one. We should nickname them “lucky”
6C is the place to be but most were lured towards hearts as majors score better.
Board 20 was an easy hand for Sean to bid. I opened 1 spade and his bid was 6 spades! On hand 28 I opened a diamond (playing 15-17 NT) Sean bid a heart and I rebid 1NT. Sean asked for aces and kings finishing in 6NT. I was dreading the spade lead but luckily got a diamond.
How to bid a slam on this hand? Neary everyone in 4♥ making 13 tricks, except Roman and Janusz in 6♥ and Tim and Ian in 6♠ making 12 tricks.
I opened 1S and the bidding went as follows
4NT was Roman Keycard Blackwood and 5D showed 1 or 4 Key cards, so South knew we were missing the K of hearts or the Ace of Clubs. My partner didn't know we had the Q of hearts so was worried we could lose an extra trick in hearts, but this is unlikely with 10 hearts between us.
Could I bid something other than 4H to show a better hand? I've only got 12 High Card points but my shape is nice ( 6 loser hand). The problem with bidding 4 Clubs is that if it's a genuine suit (which is what partner says he would have taken it as) then he doesn't know we have a good heart fit. north going straight to 4NT after 3H seems a bit ambitious.
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Can anyone catch Linda & Roger
Linda is also in the lead for the Slammaster Trophy
Congratulations to John & Kathryn who retained the Thompson Trophy with late surge on the last round, passing Tom & Gill who had been leading right from the beginning.
No slams last night.
This hand was interesting.
When North South bid game I felt I had no defensive values and must bid 4S.
Doubled as expected it still gave us a reasonable result as 4H makes despite East’s heart honours.
Our first board of the night and I was at fault! Pass, Pass, 1C from me (playing five card majors), 1S and double from Janet. 2S from West and, obviously being away with the fairies, I decided to show my range with 2NT rather than bid Hearts! Passed out. I redeemed myself slightly by making 11 tricks so it wasn’t a complete disaster but it could have been. Rather gleefully, Alan (a five card major sceptic) pointed out afterwards that if we’d been playing four card majors none of this would have happened!
Great to see nine tables and to see Tom, Gill, Peter and Jennifer there again along with ‘newbies’ Craig and Angela. Hope they keep coming. Felt a bit for Tom and Gill who were way out in front for so long but well done Kathryn and John. Very enjoyable evening all told.
At our table the bidding was P, (P) , 1H , (1S) , 3H ( we do not play pre-emptively over overcalls ) ,
(P) , 4H , (P) , P , (P).
East led AS which allowed the losing diamond to be discarded on the third spade and 11 tricks were made by Iris.
I think this was how our bidding went.
You would have thought everyone would be in the same contract but not so.
This was our bidding.
I should have gone for the safer 6S option but thought it would score better in NT.
Then I made the wrong choice as to which way to finesse the heart queen.
Story of the night.
Others tried 7S and also went off.
We were lucky not to have this slam bid against us.
East should value his hand after a jump rebid and find the slam.
The big question is why did no one go for 6NT or may be 7H?
Several Pairs managed to get to 6D.
How did the bidding go?
Hand 12. We found the 6D slam as follows. I was west and opened 2C (a strong unbalanced hand) Roger bid his heart suit 2H. I bid my diamond suit 3D. Roger bid 4NT Blackwood. I replied 5H (2 aces) and Roger bid 6D. The ace of spades was led then we made the rest. Linda Hubbold
This week it was Malcolm & Jeff who found this 6NT slam.
We subsided into 3NT.
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Bear in mind then hands in the afternoon do not recognise our "special" rule!
Alan & Andrew were the only ones to bid 6 Spades on this hand and the only ones to make 12 tricks.
Very skillful, deep finesse says it should always make but not easy I suspect.
Andrew opened 2NT, which we play as 20-22. He's only got 19 but upgraded because of the 5th heart
I transferred to spades and then bid 3NT, without a fit I wasn't interested in going on.
Andrew bid 4 Spades and now I was interested
4NT (RKCB) 5C (0 or 3 key cards)
6S (it must be 3 key cards)
Andrew drew 2 rounds of trumps and used his entries to lead hearts and ruff them good, making 3 heart tricks, allowing him to discard a diamond and a club from dummy . He was able to ruff a diamond in dummy and a club in hand. Defender could take the QS whenever he wanted.
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A silver star for Andrew & Alan
This week a hand from another place.
How to bid and play this hand. Apparently 7H makes
On a heart lead, win in dummy, Play a spade to the Q, ruff a small spade, ruff a minor suit, Draw trumps and the hand is now good.
On a minor suit lead, win in dummy, Play a spade to the Q, ruff a small spade, play the remaining heart in dummy, ruff a minor suit, Draw trumps and the hand is now good.
Spade lead is also straightforward
I don't recommend bidding 7H as it needs a 3-3 break in hearts as well as the spade finesse,.
One sequence is
2H* 2D 4th suit forcing or alternatively 3NT
4H not really what East wants to hear, so possibly pass
* With various partners I play this as forcing to 2S after a 2 level response , so it can't be passed
3H* 3NT? East may elect to look for slam after the 3H bid. but could opt for 6NT which would go down
4S I don't want to play in 3NT
* I play this as forcing to game and promising 5 hearts after the 2 level response. It's showing 15+ points. West hasn't got 15+ high card points but the shape makes up for it,
I don't recommend opening it as a strong 2 or equivalent Benjie type bid, as there's not enough high card points, though that stands a good chance of getting you to a slam. I hope its the right one!
Interesting one. 7H is OK double dummy (finessing the KS and ruffing one S in dummy BEFORE cashing AS) but not sure how you’d get to it. West would take some persuading to be in anything other than some amount of Spades. Possible sequence: W might open 2D (8 playing tricks and someone will say if the rules don’t allow it). Most of my regular partners would then bid 2S (a positive response but nothing to do with Spades); 3S, perhaps 3NT?, 4H, 4S (perhaps a bit reluctantly). Now an aggressive West, knowing that partner has something in Hearts for his no trump bid, might have a look and get to 6S (with the above system it would be played by partner!). 7S goes off. Still can’t see how you get 7H though.
I do not think that a strong opening bid at the two level is a legal option on this hand. My understanding is that with a hand with fewer than 16 HCP you must have 5 controls – an ace counts as 2 controls and a king as 1 control.
We managed to get to the right contract despite my incorrect reply to RCK Blackwood.
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There were a few potential slams last night but I feature this extraordinary hand.
Neither Natasha nor Malcolm & John could let go.
Silent throughout my bidding was exemplary!
Phil – one tiny correction to the bidding as shown on board 3.
The bid of 5S was made by N not by S.
Once a pre-emptive bid has been made it is usual to leave subsequent bids to partner and that was the case here.
Another slam slips by.
Only bid by Ray & Jill.
how should it have gone?
Morning. Just because the best player in the room (our good friend Deep Finesse) says you can make 12 tricks, it doesn’t mean the slam should be bid. There are huge holes all over the place and, personally, I wouldn’t want to go near it.
I don't think you should be in slam on this hand
You are bound to lose the Ace of Diamond and need to catch the Q of hearts and the jack of diamonds (there are some breaks where one of these won't be needed). So slightly better than a 25% chance In this case everything's sitting right.
Lightened up so called experts. Good luck to Ray and Jill , good bid. You cannot ague with their logic having seen all the cards. However east could easily have the JD instead of JC. East could have the QH instead of the JH.
This grand slam seemed simple but eluded most people.
As Jeff would say, you can’t argue with success but in your bidding sequence you can’t be sure of the King of Hearts position. Partner could easily have a second/third Heart and then it’s relying on a finesse....
Perhaps the following: 1C; 2D (strong jump with strong D - possibly six); 3H (splinter agreeing D); 4C (cue bid); 4NT (far easier if S now takes control in my view); 5D (obviously 4 key cards). I think S can then bid 7 although it would be even better if you play a Q of trumps asking system and take virtually all doubt out of the question.
In my defence, we were obviously playing a simple bidding system but Joan must have some points somewhere. Ace spades, 4 , odds on KC that’s 7 points. Still another 4 plus, if she has a second king then I thought the grand slam was the right contract, with only one I stop in six.
Not many points between them but North South can make a Grand slam.
Only 3 pairs managed to find a small slam.
How should the bidding go?
Our bidding was 1H; 2NT (raise to at least 3H); 4C (splinter); 4D (cue bid); 4H; 4NT; 5S (showing two Aces and length in hearts so forcing to 6 irrespective of K or Q); 6H from me. now the question is whether I should investigate a move to 7. Roman thought so but I’m not so sure. Asking for Kings would have left me none the wiser when only one was shown. Even though we both have nice singletons opposite partner Aces if we are missing KD the grand is likely to rest on a finesse (not wise). Also factored into my thinking was the fact that after my 4D cue bid, Roman hadn’t investigated the slam himself even though I subsequently found him to have the AS. To my mind there must be some weaknesses somewhere so I plumped for what I considered the most secure contract.
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North South had 2 chances last night of bidding and making 6C.
Only Glyn and Jan did both.
Here looks like the more difficult one to get to.
What happened at you table?
This is the one we found. The other escaped us thanks to some enterprising bidding by our opponents in Hearts which had the desired effect so fair play. Back to board 27: I opened 1C, 1S from Roman, 2C, 4D (second round control which, to be fair, I wasn’t precisely sure we were playing), 5C (I did consider bidding 4H showing my second round control but decided against risking it and in any case the hand isn’t that great) and then Roman took the chance on 6C offering an apology as he tabled his hand. Ruby cashed her AD and switched to a S. We agreed the most impressive thing that happened all night was Alan’s complete stoicism when I ruffed his AS! SOK
I was in 3NT making 8 tricks. John lead JH. How to make 9 or even 10 tricks in NT?
Ian bid 2S after my 2D, I complitely forgot that it indicated AS and things got complicated. After Ian's 5D I had nowhere to go, so it had to be 6NT. Ian went for a squeeze, Roman discarded diamonds and Ian made his 6D for the 12th trick.
Handicapped Result using NGS as at 27Jul19 Not Scaled
Pair Original Handicap Adjusted
North / South
1 4 Andrew Skidmore & Kathryn Shaw 65.77% +7.35% 58.42%
2 1 John Shaw & Natasha Romaine 61.01% +8.28% 52.73%
3 3 Adrie Box & Sean Connolly 50.30% -1.46% 51.76%
4 2 Peter & Jennifer Arnott 39.88% -5.02% 44.90%
5 6 Jeff Calladine & Gary Watson 50.00% +6.11% 43.89%
6 8 John Gould & Wilson Howden 45.83% +2.96% 42.87%
7 7 Janet Hobbs & David Ford 47.32% +4.51% 42.81%
8 5 Andrew Huskinson & Allan Doyle 39.88% -1.96% 41.84%
East / West
1 3 Jill & Ray Sellars 63.69% +4.75% 58.94%
2 7 Christine & Ralph Woodcock 55.06% -2.36% 57.42%
3 1 Julie Groves & Alan Bullock 46.43% -5.66% 52.09%
4 6 David Tyers & Iris White 52.08% N/A 52.08%
5 4 Peter Smith & Peter Bell 54.17% +3.71% 50.46%
6 5 Roger Eley & Linda Hubbold 55.95% +7.21% 48.74%
7 8 Anne McLean & Jean Robshaw 42.86% -0.37% 43.23%
8 2 Mary Jones & Robert Williamson 29.76% -5.58% 35.34%
Cumulative scores are shown under 2019/20 Competitions
Congratulations to our latest Gold qualifiers. Richard & Roman
.Only one pair bid the solid slam on this hand , fittingly Richard and Roman
How did they do it?
why did others not see the same thing?
The bidding was over in a flash....1H, 1S, 3S, 6S. The slam interest really depends on how you view South’s 15 points. I took the more aggressive stance and raised to 3S based on a nice A doubleton, good clubs and adding a couple of points for Roman’s card play! Malcolm and Kathryn weren’t impressed that no-one else bid it so they suffered. It was a good thing it wasn’t against Glyn after last week....he’d have been apoplectic.
Shouldn't North check for aces ? After all South may have
(a) S Qxxx Or (b) S Qxxx
H QJxx H KQxx
D AKJ D KQx
C Kx C KJ
On (a) you can lose AK of hearts and on (b) the 2 aces
The other option might be to start cue bidding with 4C over 3S with the disadvantage that this may help the oppos to find the right lead.Certainly a leap to 6S gives nothing away !
Everyone who is in spades makes 12 tricks. Is the slam not biddable?
I think this one is difficult to find given the combined point tally. Yes there are a couple of singletons but West’s is in partners suit which isn’t ideal. East’s H are rubbish and even the Ds aren’t great without knowing how the oppos cards lie. Although it makes, best out of it in my view. At our table I overcalled the 1H with 2C. Jan bid 2S and Roman came in with an enterprising 3NT which had the added benefit of irritating Glyn for the rest of the evening! Roman had clubs so was happy to go even six off given the S contract he assumed was against us. Glyn doubled so Roman duly bailed out into 4C of course. It didn’t stop a 4S bid but certainly got in the way of any potential slam hunt.....
On this board most people are in 4H making 12 or 13 tricks. Why hasn't anyone bid a slam?
To answer your question, there’s a good reason for not bidding a slam.....on a club lead you’d be two off before you started!! We missed the board so can’t comment on how things went at our table.
Cannot remember how the bidding went on this hand at our table, but good board for our visitors from Australia
How did it go at your table
At our table Malcolm played in 2H. West led the KD taken by the A. Malcolm played a second diamond and West played low allowing the 9 to make in dummy ! During the play of the hand the fire alarm went off which West said distracted her. It was quite noisy last night with various things happening and also the traffic noise on the A6. I suppose this can affect one's concentration. Me- I learnt to play bridge sitting at the table next to the jukebox in the students union. Playing songs by the Doors ,the Stones, The Who etc (those were the days). Maybe minor things like fire alarms going off have little impact. John S
I was wondering how the Shaw/Young axis had managed to make 9 tricks so thanks John for explaining! With us, Alan made his two hearts with little discomfort and a near top thanks to gross overbidding by others. The route to 4S must have been an interesting one to say the least! In the old days an Elsie would have been awarded for that.....
Christine & Ralph successfully bid and made this slam with the sequence as shown.
They made 12 tricks, the machine says you always make 13 tricks but I think that needs good guesswork or a double dummy.
Not everyone bid the slam and some only made 11 tricks.
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Apologies forgot to mention June 21 was a BeauRepaire Heat
Congratulations Natasha & Phil for earning a Golden spot in the final
Thai was the iffier of our 2 slams made last night.
Jeff described the bidding as ‘Jethro Tull’ but I didn’t see what information I needed.
played from West the slam is bullet proof from East we need to avoid a heart lead and we’re lucky!
Sean and Jeff were the only ones bidding this slam (in clubs).
Our bidding was as shown but doesn’t tell the whole story.
I missed Jill’s bid and thought Natasha had opened 2C , alerted and an erroneous description given by me!
After a ruling I decided to just bid 3NT. I suspect we would not have got to the slam even if I had not been short sighted?
We could have perhaps been more scientific with our bidding.
Should we have been a little more aggressive with 6NT?
A 7 bid relies on a split in hearts or a finesse guess so is probably not a good bid.
Here is another slam that got away.
I didn't take Natasha's 3C as strong enough.
We actually made 13 tricks but I don't think we should.
No one bid the slam.
HOIST ON MY OWN PETARD
Lots or slams last night but this one was interesting
Roman said I seemed so confident bidding 6S ( I wasn’t really) he bid 7C!
I should have hesitated and looked like if was an iffy bid! Which is what I thought it was!
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A difficult hand to bid.
After Natasha’s jump I felt I just had to take a jump in the dark.
One other pair got to the slam.
Congratulations John and Richard our latest gold qualifiers for the final.
Natasha & Phil gain a sliver star.
Why is no one in 6 or 7 Clubs
Jean and Liz, the only pair in 3NT making 12 tricks for top board
I hope I got the bidding right, in any case we ended in 3S, not a bad board for us
FRIDAY 3 MAY 2019
Friday 26 April evening
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a bridge (or a heart too far).
I wondered about doubling 4S bur wasn’t even sure my KS would make.
Natasha was tempted to 5H and Jan gave it the coup be grace!
What happened at your table?
Our bidding was much more low key than yours , viz. P , (1H) , double , (2H) , P , (P) , 3D , (P) , 3S , (P) , P , (P) .
Congratulations to John and Kathryn Shaw our first Gold qualifiers for next years Final.
We didn’t play this hand but sitting out we had no trouble at all in bidding 6S.
This was our bidding using 5 card majors and RKCB.
Easy when you are not under pressure at the table!
6NT scores better but if South is driving you probably stick to Spades or clubs.
The bidding with Andrew was 1S , 4D ( splinter ) , 4NT ( RKCB ) , 5H ( 2 key cards without QS ) , 6S .
This was Jill & Mick’s bidding. A long think by Mick and then a stab in the dark or a clever calculation depending on your view!
all down to North and the opening lead.
Yes that’s me. Knowing I would make the wrong decision as I had all night!
yep JS lead and the slam is cold.
Was there a clue I should have picked up?
At least we didn’t double, someone did.
I could see 11 tricks, and Jill didn’t need to have much for a 12th to materialise. Also of course there weren’t any clues, so there was a 2 to 1 chance of you leading a spade or a diamond.
If it makes you feel better they can always make 6C, even on a heart lead. They can take the ruffing finesse through the A of heart to set up a 3rd discard on the diamond (with 2 from the spades), rather than taking the diamond finesse.
This should be obvious if the heart lead is won by the K, because their partner wouldn't have under led an Ace against a slam.
Ben and I took the direct route to bidding this slam.
Knowing I should have 8 diamonds Ben just wanted to know if I had the Ace.
Interestingly you could argue that he should bid 6NT instead to protect the KH.
Suprisingly not many bid the slam.
Personally, I think your adjudication re the slam master result is perfectly right and proper!!
Re the hand of the week, speaking from afar, I would have been horrified to have missed a slam (apart from being given the chance to double 5H like Jeff and Alan did to get a ‘population of China’ score).
4NT from North seems good to me and a RKCB response of 5H (showing two key cards) would make 6NT unassailable. In fact, North could almost go straight there.....as you say it protects the KH.
Thanks for all your efforts in looking after us all for the past year....onwards and upwards for 2019/20!
Three Clubs Competition
Final Round Wednesday 27 March
A close run evening ending in a draw between Belper and Allestree.
Allestree retained the Trophy retaining their significant lead from the first two nights.
Ripley came second overall by one point from Belper
Anne & Mick
Jan & Phil
Bob & Jim
Ian R & Iris
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An interesting climax to the year.
Natasha,Richard & Phil all ended up with 19 slam points.
Richard will be awarded the trophy by virtue of him having played the fewest times in achieving his slams
On Friday nights 4 players averaged throughout the year over 56%, John Shaw highest with nearly 57% followed by Alan,Malcolm and Richard.
On Friday afternoons Jim Copson won the equivalent with over 61%
(nb on Friday afternoons district masters and above are ignored)
Our system was perfectly suited to this hand.
2D is game forcing and 2H shows no Ace.
Over 2S , 3C was enough to give me the impetus for 6.
We had the AD led against us and got 12 tricks.
Ray & Jill were the only other pair who bid the slam and must have had another lead , making 13 tricks.
It would have been good to open 2D but with north opening 1NT - duly announced as 11-14 I had no alternative but to jump to 4S making 13. No wonder bridge drives me mad!!!!
1NT doubled if left in probably makes 1 trick?
6 off for 1700 points?
TEAMS OF EIGHT
CONGRATULATIONS BELPER BLACK FOR COMING TOP OF DIVISION 4 AND BEING PROMOTED TO DIVISION 3
Belper Yellow and Purple will be in Devision 6
Good luck for next season
Perhaps fittingly our Last Venus & Mars Trophy has been won by our most successful married couple Kathryn & John Shaw
Mostly Playing with other partners
ANNUAL PAIRS COMPETITION
Congratulations to our new Champions
Malcolm & Jeff
Winning both individual sessions, the second by a good margin
Runners up Richard & Alan
NB for reasons unknown the combined scores are not appearing as the latest result but can be accessed via the results tab
There was also a difficulty with the scores being counted for NGS but that seems to have resolved itself as well
This hand was interesting , several pairs including Sean & Julie against us,bid to 6 diamonds. Relying on a club finesse to bring it home.
Our Champions Malcolm & Jeff went that one step further and bid 6NT for a top.
Apparently the bidding had some added nuances such as:
After 3NT by West, a grin by North before passing, then 5S by East and a scowl by West before bidding 6H, ending with a smug grin by South before passing.
Appears that facial expressions were better than the bidding.
Congratulations to Malcolm and John winners of this years Challenge Trophy.
A good result from Jeff and Kathryn last night brought them much closer but they were still full % ahead.
Eyes now turn to the Slamaster competition with Natasha edging to within one slam of Richard our current leader.
Some have queried how we could play in 2S by West making one trick!
Well here you go. I will leave you to decide who made the worst bids!
2H from North stated to be Lucas. Double from Natasha. Pass from David. All perhaps questionable?
I asked David whether the other suit was a minor he said probably but he was not sure.
I really didn’t want to pass and find 2H doubled makes, which it would have done.
I didn’t want to bid a 3 card minor and walk into an ambush from North South. I reasoned East should have Spades so 2S would be the least worst!
pass from North (first sensible bid!)
Natsha reasons that I may have reasonable Spades and her diamonds aren’t great so passes as well.
Just one trick but over 50% of the available points!
Looks like an ‘Elsie’ to me. anyone remember them?
Only one word for it Phil......debacle! (For all four of you.....!) Interesting though - we finished in 4S making 12 tricks.
With all the rhetoric and hilarity, this board was not too bad for us (E/W). David and Glyn (N/S) could have done so much better if not trying to be Machiavellian.
Lots of slams around last night but this one seemed to elude most pairs.
Playing in Clubs has to be the answer. 6NT can’t make?
Just to say, 6NT, which John and myself found, can and does make and is the optimum contract. Bidding.... 1D, 2C, 2NT (forcing to game and, if we weren’t already this puts us into slam territory), 4C (Roman Gerber, Ace asking), 4S (two Aces if same colour), 6NT.
Well done to Wilson and John. Solid performance which we could quite keep pace with.
FRIDAY 15 FEBRUARY
Our BEAUREPAIRE FINALS night
Congratulations to John & Wilson for a fine win in the closed room for the BEAUREPAIRE trophy.
In the open room a close competition finally ended with a dead heat between Alan & Andrew and Mary & Robert for the BEAUREPAIRE plate.
Congratulations to John & Wilson our last Gold star qualifiers
Invitations will now be issued for the Final on 15 February
Wednesday 16 January
Black v Allestree Blue
Belper won 15-5
Yellow Team v Bakewell B
Belper won 13-7
Purple Team v Bakewell C (Away)
Belper lost 2-18
For names see below
our 2018 Individual winner
Slipping past Anne McLean on the very last hand of the night.
What happened to all the men ?
Highest placed sixth
Sorry about the computer glitch last night.
Strange how we can forget the good old days!
Well done David & Glyn our latest Gold Star qualifiers for the BeauRepaire Final
Glyn has also qualified with Jan so he has a difficult choice to make.
Silver stars for Peter & Peter and Ian & Andrew
One more qualifying round to go
John lead a small club to Kathryn's JC and we were 2 down
The THOMPSON TROPHY
CONGRATULATIONS to Andrew and Ruby winners of this year's THOMPSON TROPHY
This hand seemed to create a battle royal at most tables.
My 2C indicated both majors.
I was not going to be shut out with such a good hand so risked 5H.
Natasha converted to 5S.
We went 1 off for an average. Someone made 5S doubled. Others made 5C doubled.
Just for once we got something right.
Describing North as 8 playing tricks is a bit of a push. 2D relay.
3H strong and positive. 4C and we had found the club fit.
6 clubs makes 6 Spades shouldn’t.
Been out so sorry for the late submission.
At least you bid the slam. The only ones!
6S can and does make but it takes some playing. Say, AD lead and assume another D which declarer ruffs, AK Spades and the Q H. Cross to dummy with club to the K, taking care of the singleton Jack which is key. Then play AK hearts dumping the A and Q of clubs! Next ruff the diamond and back to dummy with a club to either the 10 or 8. Play the other one of those to take west’s final club and then when you play dummy’s last club west is stuffed!! All he has left are his two trumps
There’ll be a fancy name for this like a strip squeeze or a Jeff coup - either way you’d be proud if you played it that way.
That was the bidding at our table, some might say agricultural
Flush from the success of an ultralight 3 Diamonds on a previous hand I decided 3D was the right opener on this, as we were vulnerable and I hand nothing at all in the majors.
Ruby and Kathryn found the diamond slam which is tricky.
How do we think the bidding should have gone?
One of 2 hands last night where we bid 6NT but made 7.
Should we have investigtaed further on this one?
Should you have investigated 7NT? Well, South's jump straight to 6NT isn't going to help but I'm not sure if, after going through the gears and finding a K missing, you're going to opt for 7 anyway. That said, an attempt could come via a different sequence.
With us it was 1D, 1S, 3D at the start. Should I bid 2NT? I decided against it with such a distributional hand. Yes, partner's bid means my KS has value but it's still a singleton and partner doesn't have to have brilliant spades. There's also my pesky doubleton club. Showing Hearts would be nice but a reverse should show 5D and 4H specifically. Considering everything 3D was my favoured option. 4NT from partner, 5S from me (two key cards and QD) and 6D from Alan for a modest board.
It is difficult for Alan to ask for Kings. If he does and discovers he's one short, he's committed to 6NT with a missing K which could be risky.
Now, if Alan's first response was a strong jump to 2S (which was an option he considered) we might possibly get to a stage where one of us punts 7NT because of our long suits. Still risky though without a widget to ask for specific Kings.
Congratulatons Anne and Mick our latest silver star qualifiers.
Linda and Roger already have a gold star.
We played this hand switched as North/South
I think this is how our bidding went.
what to lead ?
either AH or KS.
having been burnt earlier in the night by not leading our suit and seeing 2 tricks disappear I went for AH, big mistake!
Well done Andrew and Allan for bidding it.
what happened at your table?
After S had opened in S , overcalled by W in D , E bid 3NT which was taken out in to 4D , raised to 5D .
A spade was led which was won by E in dummy . The 10 D was run which N did well to duck . E continued with a spade which was won by S who switched to his singleton C . Declarer won with JC and played a trump which was won by N with AD . Lead of a C will now defeat the contract but this will only work if N believes W has started with 5 clubs but never bid them – understandably perhaps N switches instead to another S and the contract is made.
No slams bid and made last night.
This was an interesting hand.
I judged the West hand to be too strong to open preemptive or as gambling 3NT?
8 playing tricks in clubs seemed to be the best description. Natasha took a flyer with 3NT and we escaped a diamond lead making 12 tricks.
SATURDAY 6 OCTOBER
16 pairs thoughly enjoyed their day at Kedleston golf club.
Congratulations to all our successful pairs and thanks to all who made it such a memorable day.
Should you bid a slam on this hand?
From our bidding Natasha knew I had exactly 19 points.
Everyone made 12 tricks but it relies on either diamonds and spades splitting 3-3 and the KC being offside the Ace or both diamonds and spades splitting 3-3.
Can someone work out the combined odds? 33%?
Congratulations Anne and Jean the only ones to bid it. You can't argue with success.
after discussion with Malcolm the actual position is this.
you need both suits to split 3-3 and the KC to be onside.
One suit splitting 3-3 is 35%. Both suits 35% of 35% and then 50/50 for the K. Somewhere around 7 or 8%!
Congratulations Natasha and Jan our latest Silver Star pair , potential finalists for next year
SUMMER CUP FINAL
Wednesday 19 September
Congratulations to Team Orange who won a closely fought contest with Team Green
to win the Summer Cup and theAllsopp Trophy
Team Blue had an excellent night to win the Bronze Play off by some margin.
Full results will be posted later
I have never had 28 points before!
What to do with them!
I couldn’t see any option other than simply bidding the slam. I tried 6NT as I could not see the advantage of a spade contract.
I didn’t drop the spade queen so ended up playing a long squeeze hoping for a diamond discard which didn’t happen, one down.
There should be a more scientific way of bidding but with 33 points surely everyone should be a slam?
No clues so the odds favour the spade finesse?
I'd not seen that many points either, especially since I was so overwhelmed that I thought I'd got 29! 2C, 2D, 2S, 3S (the correct bid in my view, showing some points and a likely K). I then checked the position using key card and, sure enough, Jeff came up with KC. Now what?
The KC (if Jeff has at least 3 clubs and another entry) would take care of either my losing D or H BUT, if he has 5 or so points for his 3S bid, there's no way of knowing how his other few points are made up - if he has a couple of Jacks in D and H you may never get to his hand.
6NT looked too dangerous a stretch to me so I opted for a still potentially risky 6S and also lost out to the QS. Sadly Jeff, although he had a great QH entry, also had a doubleton Club so no discard on the K after all. Card combinations never cease to amaze! Never mind I'll remember the 28 points!
Several slam hands around last night.
this one was interesting although our opponents only managed to get to 5C.
How should it be bid?
Malcolm opened 2D (game forcing). I bid 3H (2H would be a negative.) This doesn't show the Ace of hearts necessarily as we don't play immediate Ace showing responses.Malcolm now bid 4NT which is Key Card Blackwood (in hearts) and I bid 5H showing 2 key cards but no Q of hearts.Malcolm now bid 6C. I thought long and hard whether to bid 6H (giving partner a bad time !) but decided to pass. After all Malcolm might have nothing much in hearts. The ace of spades was led after which there wasn't a problem with the club Q coming down. .6NT by South is in danger on a small spade lead as if South guesses wrong they take 2 spade tricks. John S
My 2D is game forcing. Natasha showed AH with her response. I bid 3S setting the suit and intending to bid 4NT (RCK) over her response.
The only way I could be sure of K and Q Spades.
She took the wind out of my sails with her own 4NT.
Worried that she might not know if we were missing an Ace or KS I took,the bull by the horns and bid 7S which she converted to 7NT.
Luckily the QS Falls for,a happy outcome.
Well done Julie and Jen for getting there too.
Bet their bidding was not so much fun!
Congratulations to Mick & Jill the only pair to successfully bid this slam.
I don't know how the bidding went.
Well done Jill for playing 6S under time pressure and with a lot of noise in the room.
Jill opened 1S, Nora overcalled 2H and I couldn’t see a helpful bid, so just went straight to 6S. I did suggest to Jill that she likes a challenge! And she rose to it!
Thanks for all the work involved in Friday’s two events – they both went very well.
That was the bidding at our table. Top board for E/W making 11 tricks.
How did you bid this board?
I think that was the bidding at our table.
Diversity of contracts. What was the bidding at your table.
Comments: natasha.romaine@bt internet.com
Orange beat Purple in the first semi-final. Purple were winning after 3 quarters but lost right at the end
Green beat Blue comfortably in the other semi.
Pink beat Yellow in a friendly.
The Gold final will be contested by Orange & Green
Purple,Blue,Pink& Yellow will be in a 4 way battle for Bronze
Natasha and I both took risks to get in the way of the North South bidding on this hand.
From my perspective a slam seemed very likely as my Spades were only reducing Natasha’s defensive tricks.
4S doubled would not have fared well. We were a little lucky
How did the others bid the slam?
should it be converted to NT as one pair did?
We found our way to 6D via 2C (north); 3C, 3D, 3H, 4NT, 5H (two key cards - obviously AKH which is great), 5NT, 6C (no further Kings outside), 6D.
With two kings missing I thought 6NT might be a stretch, given I was actually a few points lighter. No guarantee partner has many/any Diamonds on the bidding either.
A good trump lead didn't give me any gifts and after drawing trumps, I had options all over the place. Long story short I was lazy and simply gave up the KC so 6 is cold....sorry partner. At least trying a finesse would have been more the done thing.
Ask cavalier Jeff about the 6NT without checking the K position - he'll say, it worked didn't it?
When Phil says they were lucky not to be doubled in 4S he is showing a lack of faith in Natasha’s declarer play !
Declarer should aim to get to dummy twice by ruffing diamonds, the first time in dummy leading towards the KS and the second time leading towards KC, ending up losing AS, AD, AC and three hearts for – 500 and an absolute top. It would take inspired play by N/S to prevent this which would probably necessitate seeing all four hands.
I hope Natasha isn’t encouraged by this to make more bids like her 2S bid.
Congratulations to John Shaw and Richard Horsley gold star qualifiers for our final in February
30 March was our last session of 2017-18
Final Competitions resolved saw
Malcolm & John crowned as Challenge Trophy winners
Jeff crowned as Slam Master
Alan Kenny top of our averages
Julie Wragg came top of the Stepping Stones Averages
David Hartland & Julie Groves top of our Stepping Stones Pairs
Our 50th Anniversary celebrations continue
13 tables enjoyed last nights cake and festivities